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Russia should be given more respect, I think. Anonymous 04/17/2025 (Thu) 05:54:33 Id: fcf4e9 No. 24725
Why is russian history never taught on the west? Like learning about the past glory of russians and basic facts like how Peter I the great build St. Petersburg and Catalina made palaces filled with masterpieces of european geniuses. I mean, I think russians deserve more respect. BTW not a russian, I'm a spic learning about russian history.
>>24725 Because Russia is the designated boogeyman of the Western world that can be blamed for all internal fuck ups. They need the population to be as ignorant as possible about them, so that they can claim whatever they want with regards to Russia.
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>>24725 >Why is russian history never taught on the west? It was taught but the one Great Britain wrote. Not the one which Russians actually teach in their schools. Russian schools teach a lot of politicized version of their history since every creep wants to bash them for being either"weak" or "savage". Russians themselves teach own history in different chunks "respect local history(few learn it) . Then "Russian empire and its act in world history-chunk. and "what actual politics demand" history-chunk. There are a lot of conflicts s(Hello, I just arrived from Leddit, please bully me)ocals history is often written somewhere else or not written at all(why the fuck should area in the size of France with population of 1 million even keep history tracks? especially, when they can only write in pictures?). Most Russians dont care about Novorossia shit. but since there is a war, they studied huge amount of different history reports from that area last 20 years. Russian education system offers and covers all those areas. BTW this is why USA will never catch them up. in USA they are so fucking retarded that only few selected even try to learn own history beside "politicized" government narative version taught in Schools and proceed in universities. This is why Putin have to fucking explain american politicians and Scientists like fucking 9 years old why his acting is historically and politically correct and not just some shit based on whim of sleepy pedobear or donalds paranoia. in 2022 The western actually has forbidden Russian history, culture and language. Russian language books banished from Amazon or other publications. Only few remains. In few years the Western will discovered how retarded and savage they turned compared to others, who actually kept contacts with Russians. (BTW they did the same with original European, Asian and African culture. go and try to find books of medieval books from arab and persian writers. The manga and anime culture literally saved japanese from being forgotten own culture and even reintroduced(weird way) to the West. Africa has millions songs, books and so on we never heard about since Bongs literally took it all to fucking UK and hidden it in imperial archives.)
>>24725 >St Petersburg The architect who designed the city was French. >Palaces Most of them were - again - designed by French and Swiss architects. >I mean, I think russians deserve more respect. If you're really studying Russian history then you might want to start digging into the ethnic backgrounds of noteworthy "Russians" you come across.
I think russia is shit, because russians hate white people, love muslims and sitting on bottle.
>>24777 >was French. no. all russians https://shorturl.at/8jlwz before soviet union st. Peterburg was build as islands with each own project. still 80% Russians. >Most of them were - again - designed by French and Swiss architects. again no. but Russians used to send own architects to study there. >If you're really studying Russian history then you might want to start digging into the ethnic backgrounds of noteworthy "Russians" you come across. jew and polaken BS. >>24793 NAFO pidar most likely a jew or some scumbag from Turkyie
situation right now: Historians Andrei Fursov and Dmitry Volodikhin commented on the message of the Russian embassy in Berlin about the increasing cases of discrimination against citizens of our country in Germany. "This attitude towards Russians can be explained by the zombification of Europeans, their lack of independent thinking and their readiness to believe any propaganda. Western Europeans are weak-willed, uninformed people, absolutely indifferent. For example, they did not care about the fate of people who were killed for eight years in Donbass, and now suddenly in the course of several days they have developed hatred towards Russians," Fursov explained. He also pointed to the powerful propaganda from the Western authorities. As the publicist noted, they are redirecting the aggression of the residents of these countries, which arose due to internal crises and the coronavirus pandemic, toward Russia. "There are competing civilizations: one is basically Orthodox, the other is basically Catholic and Protestant. Therefore, the attitude towards Russians is shown by narrative as representatives of a completely different world, a different civilization, as strangers. A similar attitude will be towards Arabs and Chinese. In my opinion, this has always been, is and will be the case in Europe," Volodikhin explained. Earlier, the Russian Ambassador to Germany Sergei Nechayev said that Moscow sent a note to the German Foreign Ministry due to discrimination against Russians in the country. Hundreds of our citizens have suffered due to the bullying, the diplomat emphasized. Nechayev also spoke about insults and threats towards Russian educational and cultural missions.
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>>24796 Keep guessing, zigger trash.
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>>24725 dedovschina
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>>24777 I dont think puskin, tolstoy and dostoyesky to be ethnically western europeans. Also, trying to claim all noteworthy slavs is a bit disingenous I think. Tartars are clearly not western europeans if that's your argument.
>>25248 >I dont think puskin, tolstoy and dostoyesky to be ethnically western europeans. Of course not. That said, they are certainly more European than the average Russian by virtue of belonging to the nobility as opposed to staying in the same village for 400 years because they were slaves. >Also, trying to claim all noteworthy slavs is a bit disingenous I think. I never claimed that. My point was that many, many noteworthy "Russians" had ancestry from places that were only "Russian" by virtue of annexation as opposed to being part of the heart of the empire; Mikoyan and Gurevich (of MiG fame) were Armenian and Jewish, respectively; Sukhoi was from Belarus, which was formerly part of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth before being annexed; Lysenko was Ukrainian, etc. My point was that if you're really examining the achievements of the Russian people as opposed to citizens of Russia then you need to look into ethnic backgrounds. >Tartars are clearly not western europeans if that's your argument. God no, of course not.
>>25663 They belong to the same nation, which is what matters. Otherwise european archievements couldn't count because there's clearly more ethnicities than nation labels. My point was that it could be argued that they're barbarians, or their army is clumsy. But still, I do feel that trying to devaluate the russian empire as inferior is what caused hitler and napoleon to lose their wars. Tsun Tzu said that you should never underestimate your enemy. Which I think a lot of westerners tend to do. The love to understimate BRICS.
>>24725 Have you learnt LGBT history in russia? https://en.wikipedia(Please use archive.today)/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_Russia >The Austrian royal councilor Sigismund von Herberstein described in his report Rerum Moscoviticarum Commentarii (Notes on Muscovite Affairs) his observations during his travels in Moscow in 1517 and 1526. He stated that homosexuality was present among all social classes.[7][8] The English poet George Turberville who visited Moscow in 1568 when Ivan IV ruled Russia during a bloody phase, was not shocked by the carnage, but about the open homosexuality of the Russian peasants.[9] Adam Olearius also reported that homosexuality among men existed on all levels of society and was not treated as a crime.[10] There are also reports of homosexual relationships between women.[11][12] Testimony of contemporaries in this regard is probably exaggerated, since any tolerant attitude towards homosexuals was equated to sodomy. In 1551, at the Stoglaviy sobor [ru] ("hundred-domed Cathedral"), a real ecclesiastical, but not criminal, punishment for a homosexual act was introduced - excommunication, but the spread of this punishment is doubtful, since the homosexual act was "nothing more than a joke" at the tsar's court and among the people.[13] Ivan the Terrible was accused of being homosexual in an attempt to discredit him. Despite this, there have been outbreaks of homophobia, for example when Tsar False Dmitry I was overthrown, his broken body was dragged through the streets by his genitals alongside his supposed male lover.[14]
>>25746 >They belong to the same nation, which is what matters. Lmao what? Every single fucking SSR tried to resist soviet annexation by force of arms, from the Poles to the Estonians to the Kazakhs. >Otherwise european archievements couldn't count because there's clearly more ethnicities than nation labels. People separate out European ethnic groups all the time. The difference is that a German from Pomerania and a German from Bavaria are much more closely related, genetically and culturally, than a Georgian Russian and a Finnish Russian; grouping the first two under the wider umbrella of "German" for the purpose of evaluating the German people is much more appropriate than grouping the latter two under the umbrella of "Russian" for the purpose of evaluating the Russian people. >My point was that it could be argued that they're barbarians, or their army is clumsy. Their army is much worse than that. >But still, I do feel that trying to devaluate the russian empire as inferior is what caused hitler and napoleon to lose their wars. Napoleon certainly went full retard but the only thing that stopped Hitler from folding up Russia in 1942, and which allowed Russia to go on the offensive at all, was lend-lease and no less a person than Stalin himself admitted this. >Tsun Tzu said that you should never underestimate your enemy. >Which I think a lot of westerners tend to do. If anything the problem has been over-estimation of Russian competence, as seen in the Ukraine debacle. >The love to understimate BRICS. And exactly what evidence is there that BRICS - as a bloc, not the individual nations within - has been even remotely underestimated?
>>25783 The evidence is the historical tendency of europeans to underestimate non europeans as unable to learn.
>>25783 >Lmao what? Every single fucking SSR tried to resist soviet annexation by force of arms, from the Poles to the Estonians to the Kazakhs. damn. you uneducated faggot.
>Why is russian history never taught on the west? well let's see anon >go back 10 years war >go back 100 years human atrocities >go back 200 years war
>>26024 So basically like every fucking empire on the last 8k years?
Russia should be Balkanized to stop its expanionist bullshit
>>26079 Are you willing to lose 20 million white males? >BUT WE NUKE THEM Russia has more nukes than USA.
>>26093 Russian nukes probably don't work.
>>26099 Same as american nukes, pretty sure most american stuff is overpriced shit using 8 bit cpus from 1980. My point still stands, russia is simply too big for americans to cause any damage if they bomb some place. It's not like russians could have secret nuclear bunkers underground.
hick
>>24725 >Why Because it is not relevant for "The West", the only thing that matters is the Russian Revolution, the fuck do you know about Austria, the HRE or Netherlands?.
>>24725 I respect Russia about as much as France They are a huge, strong nation that's had a lot of influence in European wars. Very brave in WW2 It does seem that they often use meat-wave tactics in war though
>>24763 >Africa has millions songs, books Most African tribes couldn't write and read before bongs and other Europeans colonized them. Stop being delusional and believing in Wakanda. The supposedly richest man in history who is said to be a Mali king has this claim only because of the tales of him gaving out huge donations while traveling to Mecca. Nobody then mentions the Mali empire crumbled after his passing for which most blame the king for spending all the royal wealth. This is also hard to prove since that kingdom didn't record it's history lmao.
>>26704 Holly shit, i think i can read polish, correct me if i'm wrong: "history of russia in 5 words: and after that i was even prouder"
>>26731 "and then it was even worse"
>>26511 >It does seem that they often use meat-wave tactics in war though Give me one piece of evidence, this meat tactis stuff is >>26511 >It does seem that they often use meat-wave tactics in war though Literally haven't seen any in the entire conflict, both sides btw There are battles with huge losses but neither side uses "meat waves", that's just some journalist tabloid shit
>>24725 They would need to do something that deserves respect first
>>24814 Man, the fucking audacity to say Europeans are uninformed people as a Russian and then instantly follow that up with a blatant lie. Maybe people wouldn't hate Russians if they weren't like this.


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