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Last Epoch Season 2 Anonymous 04/17/2025 (Thu) 05:33:37 Id: ccafdb No. 1108991
10.5 more hours to go. What build are you playing?
I haven't decided yet, but I'm leaning towards a Spellblade. I didn't play the previous season, I haven't played since a few weeks after the 1.0 launch, so I'm excited to see all the changes they've made.
>>1108991 Haven't played in a while so I wanna go some kind of bow build but I haven't chosen what yet
>>1109045 They added a new bow skill call heartseeker. Personally I think it's busted and it's only a matter of time before they nerf it.
I did a hail of arrows puncture build last CYCLE. I hate that term. But, the build was fun. It was OP. I hope it doesnt get nerfed. If either of those skills get nerfed I will play something else.
>>1108991 Heart seeker rogue might be fun.
Going to go with Smite paladin
>>1111329 are you going for hit or dot stacking? i was thinking of doing poison but then i remember they nerfed poison long ago.
>>1108991 no idea what to play last league i played summoner with the 2 abominations and the setup sucked ass might try falcon summoner
>>1108991 I'm gonna try something a bit more novel and go with an ignite sorc using black hole. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXw4YdNB For my weaver tree (I've put it in the planner too if anyone wants to judge it) I'm focusing on rares/champions and graveyards, because it seems like they've got the most mechanics that synergize with each other. I imagine lizards would probably be good too, but I don't like how they shower your screen with too much garbage when a shrine spawns 6 of them and they all die next to each other. I'm gonna go on hc and see how far I can take the character. Maybe I'll play good old frostbite+doom sorc afterward (as long as I can get a siphon off shade before ripping anyway), or lightning smite paladin. Or I'll try something new, I've cooked up a few memebuilds (cold converted flame rush + volcanic orb + static orb sorc, and judgement aura + channeled healing hands fire caster pally)
>>1108991 rive forge guard
>>1113263 >rive You've made me curious, how is playing melee in this game? I didn't like it much in PoE1 and it looked even more frustrating in PoE2. Do you find you've got enough speed to level fast, and enough mobility/survivability to survive comfortably? I think I saw Lunge got a new node a while ago which gives it two charges, right?
>>1113317 Erasing strike seems to be strong but does require some gear since it's a very mana hungry build
>>1113389 I could never really stand those skills where you have huge mana costs and huge AoE's, because there'd always be stragglers I couldn't justify cleaning up with another cast
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>want to buy last epoch >reseller key sites are somehow more expensive than steam what the fuck is this shit? i though i could get a copy for 10$
>>1114180 it all depends on if the publisher sells keys outside of steam indie publishers usually dont and thats why it costs so much
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where is the patch also please let the servers not break for once
>>1114219 What happened to the good old russian keys that cost basically nothing?
it's over...
it's live
no preload :/
>>1114832 This is how it goes, you play 1 day after the patch, otherwise you'll be trying to get in all day.
>>1114996 oh i forgot to patch the game so it wouldnt let me connect it works fine now
>>1108991 Reminder to keep a twitch stream open in the background on mute for your free cosmetics.
I've played Glacier Sorc on release, I might try another Sorc or Spellblade or Paladin.
one job
so it's 1.0 all over again
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What's with this shit game. It doesn't close down properly and just hangs on steam and I have to force close steam entirely. Also streamer queues again lmao.
>mfw im just hit level 20 How's your run been going?
kept dcing trying to move into another zone so i quit waiting for things to die down a bit
Don't think we're beating poe2 numbers bros.
Yeah this unity jank is done for.
>>1118166 >>1118618 having more fun with this game than poe2 thoughbeit
>>1119440 Well of course. And despite minions being giga nerfed and specters worthless dogshit, GGG just deleted one of the only useable ones lol.
>>1108991 too busy playing other games since so many that i want to play come out this month, is forge guard good now?
why the fuck does the game micro freeze and fps drops to 20 when i open any fucking menu? shit is annoying
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poch lost poe2 won
>>1119987 Proofs?
>>1119983 Ah, so it's not just me. Pretty sure it's a new bug, annoying as fuck yeah.
Sell me on this clickety clicker arpg, what's its gimmick to make it stand out? Is it more fun to play than grim yawn?
>>1120659 I fixed it apparently if you load a heavy item filter it does that so you just have to restart the game
>>1120688 Thanks
Wtf no 1488 global chat? Where are my white supremacist poe bros supposed to chat in game.
No one is even talking in Global at least not on NA West
>>1121492 are you on hc? hc and sc chat are separate, and hc chat is almost always dead
>>1121817 Playing SC see some people talking every once in a while but with 100k people playing I thought it would be more lively
>>1122193 There is probably thousands of channels and no way to change the one you are on looks like
this is pretty nice
>>1122290 since it's not a % chance per cast but rather per hit if you're using hammer throw with lots of additional projectiles specced then it results in a bunch of smites
>>1122290 good shit
I'm going witchfire warlock is it shit? Only level 5 but rip blood feels kinda poopy.
>>1122405 idk never played it but everything feels kinda meh in the beginning also maxroll has guides both for leveling and endgame builds
>>1122483 Rip blood feels pretty good with hungering souls actually forgot I unlocked that. Just gonna go with it until ascendancy class, looks like respecting is free?
>>1122598 specializations are free i think but actual skilltree respecs cost something dont quote me on that tho
>>1122405 Felt strong to me when I played it last league, but I just didn't like how she only has one choice of skill to apply ailments with (Chaos Bolts) after you've pressed Fissure
>>1122598 are you talking about respecing your skills? technically you can only remove points and unspec specialized skills but you get bonus exp after unspecing so you can relevel your skills faster. if you are talking about your passive tree then yes it costs gold but it cost so little you might as well consider it non-existent
Im playing Erasing Strike Void Knight is pretty fun
just dl'ed the rip music on the installer fucking BANGS
How's "Disintegrate" nowadays? I remember it was pretty lacking on release, especially considering the cost to use it was absolutely destroying your mana regen.
>>1119815 Which one?
Got to 70-ish on my fireball/black hole ignite sorc, I think I'm gonna respec to frostbite ice shards/static orb because FUCK does black hole feel like ass when the rare you dumped it on just casually walks (or god forbid teleports) out of it
>>1122598 >respeccing skills Free, only costs time to relevel it (less time as you level up and your minimum skill level goes up) >respeccing passive points Some gold >respeccing mastery Fuckload of gold
Everyone says Lich is a broken shitty class but the reaper looks so cool. I want to try to make it work, wish there were some good modern guides for it. Did it get any improvement from the patch even if it just better itemization? Also wasn't there supposed to be some sort of lightning spear paladin now sort of like the lightning javazon from d2? I was looking around and didn't see any guides or anyone talking about it but I swear I saw it in the preview trailer.
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>>1130128 >Temporarily disabled the Vile Vulture as a Spectre. It was in hotfix 4 from 2 days ago. People in charge of that game are clowns.
>>1136033 In the 14 days since 0.2 has dropped GGG has put out 6 patches, working on a 7th and 28 hotfixes. I don't think there's anyway you can spin this other than people don't want The Vision and GGG is going to kill themselves trying to force it. it's not good
>>1136241 >GGG is going to kill themselves trying to force it. it's not good. It is good that there is so much pushback because either they'll be required to make the game closer to something people are willing to play long term, or the game in its current state will ultimately fail. Either way, I'd expect 0.3 will be a fundamentally different game for the better just as 0.1 was fundamentally better. It's still very very early in the game's life and they're feeling it out. But yeah, part of me just wants them to scrap the game systems entirely (dodge roll mechanic) and go back to the drawing board on basic systems. Not the whole game, just basic systems.
>>1137027 I like the optimism. I guess I'm just not confident that Jonathan is going to easily let go of the vision and it's going to be a very long drawn out fight. If GGG decides to make something people will play then it's basically PoE1 with better graphics and new skills/uniques/systems (basically what people wanted but not what GGG wanted since they decided to split the games) I don't mind if it takes a while but I hate that it's killing poe1 development in the process
>>1137089 Yeah, same. I didn't mind back in 0.1 because it was all fresh and fun, but now that 0.2 has turned out as it is 3.26 looks like a shiny gold nugget on top the mountain.
>>1114180 I'm in a similar boat. Waiting for a sale since I don't think I'll stick with it but I'm interested enough I do want a look. The self found mode increasing your drops since you can't trade makes me a lot more interested
>>1132225 Lich isn't bad, it has good damage and good survivability. Spirit Plague+Drain Life is a good combo for necrotic, Rip Blood+Bone Shards is good for phys, and those are just the two I've played. There's probably some other decent combos >Also wasn't there supposed to be some sort of lightning spear paladin now Lightning spear build has been in for a while now, it's a basic Sentinel skill. But I don't know anything about javazon to compare it
Just started act 7 and only have 5/8 idol slot rewards did I miss some side quests or will I get them in this act
>>1139438 you can open your map and click on the quest list on the left to see which quest gives you idol slots
Can I double dip into Marksman and Falconer to just get the Falcon?
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Lizards were a mistake
I think they need to tone it down a little. Might as well just remove old 1x1 or 2x1 idols.
bruh
>>1140870 Just update bro :))
I fucking ripped at 77 bros The super nemesis at the top of the tower woven echo got me
I like the new endgame
It's finally weekend so I have time to play this. Is it playable on SSF or char-SSF? In poe2 it was a miserable experience, but I just don't find trading for gear rewarding me with dopamine. I probably won't ever trade, but are there separate ladders? If not, is there a reason to chose that?
>>1144570 there's a faction for SSF that gives boosted droprates and more targetted farming
I had to refund this game a second time, almost 3 hours in. Thank God for Steam. People complain about PoE2 making you feel very weak compared to the threats you face (especially with the latest patch), but LE early game is the complete opposite. I saw red flag after red flag of the most brainless haphazard design choices imaginable. People think your decisions somehow matter and the game "respects your time" as opposed to PoE, but the actual truth is that nothing in this game has any weight or offers pushback against the player. It feels like Vampire Survivors with higher production values.
>>1145356 Vampire survivors is a great game. Also the game does get harder once you get to the endgame. The campaign is just super easy because every patch people would complain that it was too hard. They have basically tuned down the difficulty every patch on the campaign. Let me tell you, I would rather have baby mode campaign then grueling slog campaign that it once was.
>>1145407 Vampire Survivors is neat for what it is. The thing about more complex ARPGs is that if you present the player with tons of choices and systems, you better encourage people to actually interact with them. At some point, I found myself just spamming Hammer Throw as a Sentinel because other skills were outright inferior and just mauled everything in my path. I didn't even need or bother to allocate any passive points, I was just spamming that one ability, while Lunge (very shitty animation btw), Vengeance, Rive, etc. served absolutely no purpose. So it's not simply a matter of difficulty, it's making the experience and mechanics meaningless and redundant. >Also the game does get harder once you get to the endgame >I would rather have baby mode campaign then grueling slog campaign that it once was That doesn't sound good. If I have no reason to care about the campaign, I'd rather not just play the game at all. In PoE2, I feel a sense of satisfaction learning what each move can be used for and how they interact with each other right from the very start. I actually need and have to think about my gear and where I invest my skill points in. You can make a case against PoE2's current state, that the "combo" design philosophy eventually becomes almost unusable because it's too impractical or you simply can't see shit when you get swarmed by monsters in the endgame. But that could just mean the endgame should be balanced to accommodate that great foundation, not the other way around. Even if GGG fail to do that, at least the campaign is still an enjoyable experience.
>>1144570 this is the most ssf friendly arpg the crafting is deterministic and you get resources for it thrown at you in every map
>>1145613 As someone who beat all of the poe2 content at launch even the aspirational shit like uber pinnacle bosses on max difficulty. Endgame is largely the same as LE. Spam one skill and full screen clear large packs. The difference is almost exclusively in the campaign where you don't have access to the good skills and you pretty much have to face large groups of bulletsponge enemies. I want to see loot and want to see my character progressively become stronger. I don't want it to take 40 hours each time to do that. I have played poe since open beta back in 2011. Im tired of playing a campaign that is ultimately filler so any campaign that respects that is 100% a better option than poe2 where every moment to moment may feel tense or challenging. But, if I wanted a challenge moment to moment I would play something like dark souls where each enemy is a fun puzzle to solve. Not an arpg where i want to look like a crown prince who just plundered the jewel mines of south africa. Arpgs for me are wish fulfillment power seeking fantasies. The reason poe1 was successful was because it did that well. The campaign is more challenging than LE less challenging than poe2, but it can be done in 6-10 hours. Poe2 took me 40 hours the first time and 24 hours the second time and both times I had to do excessive over leveling in areas to get drops that would get me to progress. I wasnt progressing on my skill or how well i was timing my dodges. I was progressing solely because my numbers went higher. That shit ain't fun. Also don't try to come back at me with Im a bad gamer. Ive been top 10 percentile in every competitive game Ive ever played.
>>1146183 try gothic 1 and 2
>>1146183 >Also don't try to come back at me with Im a bad gamer I didn't accuse you of anything like that. You're not engaging with anything I said, and you're coming across as an extremely insecure fag when all I did was simply question the LE's core design and contrast it to PoE2. >Ive been top 10 percentile in every competitive game Ive ever played. Okay, bro. And you still think Dark Souls offers challenging gameplay where "each enemy is a fun puzzle to solve?" Are you just shitposting now or what?
The game feels a little too easy. I've made an Erasing Strike void knight build and everything just gets one shotted, even the bosses.
Yeah the new idols are a clean powercreep. They need to stomp the weawer item power a little
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>>1146630 >playing brand of deception >i can get fucking 30% shock chance and an actual good second stat off a 2-slot idol >before i could only get 15% shock chance and a piddling amount of one single elemental resist Counterpoint: the weaver mod values need to be the fucking default values
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Got the game, getting this on the main menu when my VPN is off. With VPN on I can create my character, but then I'm getting stuck on infinite login screen as I read they block VPNs. Is it something on my end or they haver server issues at the moment?
>>1154077 maybe check if there's a patch? i had the same issue try restarting steam
>>1145613 >Lunge screenwide movement skill. you want to be spamming it to progress fast >Rive if you had set up your hammer throw correctly you would be somewhat mana constrained which rive exists to restore >baby mode campaign just do the dungeons then since they also allow you to skip some story stuff >poe2 campagn ah you're a slurper. glad you have a game that's made for you then. have fun using whatever streamer guide next season bwo
>>1146312 Same poster different machine. All I was trying to do was not have an argument over GIT GUD. That was all I was trying to do. PoE2 is a tough game. It isn't challenging, tho. It isn't a fun challenge. It is agonizing it is boring. Moment to moment it is a boring game. Dark Souls moment to moment is fun and generally challenging. I'm talking in the broader aspect of Soulsborne games. Ya, going back to Dark Souls 1 right now is a super easy game. But, back in 2011 it was a pretty tough game until wikis and speedrunners showed off the broken parts of it that made it really easy. But, back on the topic of POE2 and LE; POE2 is ass it is not challenging in a fun. You can have fun struggling for 40, 80, 120 hours every reset to just get a fraction of the power and speed you would have in POE1 or even LE 10 hours into the game. I'm not saying shit like top 10 percentile to brag. I'm doing it as a frame of reference so you understand my complaints about POE2 and to say that I would rather play vampire survivors than POE2.
>streamers are playing poch >they have a good time THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE JOHN DO SOMETHING
>>1154122 >>1154077 Got it working. The game just hates VPNs more than I thought and split tunneling didn't do shit, had to switch protocol. Do you guys play on WASD? My character moves too fast so I can't get used to it.
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man these are nice
>>1156417 Probably because you don't need to sweat the game as much as Poo2.
>>1154661 >All I was trying to do was not have an argument over GIT GUD You're the one who brought shit up like that in the first place. >I'm not saying shit like top 10 percentile to brag. I'm doing it as a frame of reference so you understand my complaints about POE2 and to say that I would rather play vampire survivors than POE2. It's irrelevant. Whether you're talking about competitive shooters, fighting games or even RTS, few of those skills carry over to a game like this. It's not purely about the moment to moment gameplay where you need sick reflexes and agility to pull a 360 no scope, you need to thoroughly explore the game's own specific systems, understand a ton of specific RPG abstractions and plan your build accordingly. The fact you mentioned competitive games just tells me you may have no clue what you're talking about. And I don't care what games you find boring or not either. My argument was that LE makes skills and mechanics largely unimportant for a big chunk, until you get to some point where those things finally matter. That's just objectively terrible design, I can't understand why anyone would rationalize that making a portion of the game braindead is somehow "respectful" to the player. At that point, just give me the option to skip straight to the endgame and let me ignore the shitty trivial campaign because there's nothing I'm going to learn from it. It's for the exact opposite reason that PoE is so interesting and unique. Unless you look up builds online, there's a fuck ton of mechanics you'll feel naturally compelled to explore on your own and take advantage of in order to progress. But if you're going for this awkward middle-ground where you have layers complexity, but for several hours your game plays like a glorified cookie clicker, then it's a waste of time. I'll either opt for an actual complex game that respects the player's intelligence and its own mechanics, or something far more simple and quicker to get into like Vampire Survivors. And that's not to say anything about D3 and 4 also being very decent alternatives if you're serious about LE being a good game...
this guy loves poe2 so much he dedicates all his time posting in the last epoch thread on 8chan.moe
little tip for falconeer players aerial assault distance is based on cursor placement so if you move your cursor outside of the game window for example you will go way farther
>>1145613 They fell for the same trap every online game since wow has made. They got tricked into thinking the journey doesn't matter. It's a sickness of the mind and we need a completely teardown and rebuilding of the system from the ground up. Believe it or not the game used to offer some decent challenge. Lagon in particular forced you to be awake to get past. But redditors cried and cried and cried and here we are where you can hold down left click with any ability and roll through the entire campaign and probably half of the monoliths until you have to even try. It's such a cancerous ideology and sets players up to fail and steals away what should be the most enjoyable part of the game.
What lenses should I be using?
>>1165432 double cost and double rewards and double the cost double the uses. They require level 7 and 8 in the faction to be used.
>>1111365 Are there any options to change his skin color?
>>1160895 I wanted to build and play a "combo-er" in PoE. At least 2 skills, one for single target DPS and another for AoE. But as much as I tried, the game felt like it was fighting and punishing me every step of the way for trying to diversify my skills in a synergistic way. One day I finally "beat" the game and found that it was basically a glorified slot machine. I was severely disillusioned and deleted everything. On a whim, I tried Last Epoch for no particular reason (I think it was because of the chad white druid) and went for the rogue, hoping it would finally let me fulfill my fantasy of being able to diversify my skills to fulfill certain use cases while still being synergistic and setting the other skills up. Bladedancer finally let me do that and I will always be grateful to Last Epoch for it.
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>enemies have a chance to dodge >enemies have +30% endurance
I think the 50% of players playing the same thing is just the playerbase being sheep who copy the top streamer rather than a balance thing, happened in poe too.
It's kind of astounding how early access the game still feels despite all of the improvements. I keep seeing animation issues with the main character, the UI doesn't show monster health half the time and holding alt doesn't let you highlight inside of tooltips anymore, the new pickup radius is totally inconsistent and it doesn't work for anything but specific gear items on the ground which feels really bad, you still end up walking straight into NPCs and standing inside of them when you try to talk to them, the respec woman in the end of time doesn't work because the dialog box is broken, there are some enemies with completely broken cloth physics in act 9, I could go on but I'd fill the whole fucking character limit with shit like this. The balance is really bad too, it's worse than before. The campaign is even easier than 1.0, which feels fucking insane to say, and playing certain classes puts that on easy mode even by the standards of the easy mode campaign. I really, really hope that after Easter they sit down and just start patching this game properly to fix up all of the stupid minor issues they have, because if it wasn't for the lack of polish it would easily be a recommend for most people. Conceptually, and to some extent mechanically, the game is solid. It's just that it still feels like a beta even though it has been "officially released" for like a fucking year now. Anyway, I really do like season 2 despite all those complaints. This is what 1.0 should have been like.
>>1169608 >Marksman in top 3 Kind of feeling a bit contrarian and wanna play something else now.


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