My social life is over.

>>1103082 Fucking huge news

>>1103082 actually insane news, thanks for posting, can't wait to grind a cleric by healing zombie mushrooms ad nauseam like in the old days

>>1103082 Nemi's pretty cute considering she's probably nearing 50.

>>1103082 I never played Maple Story, but I always thought it looked cute. I think I will be trying it this time.

Surely this would be with fourth job, anything but mage is inting. int and mag att being 1:1 is crazy.

Looks like this has been in the works for over a year now

>>1103082 It's fucking over for me.

Pretty sure my friend is gonna be glued to this game for the next month considering he hops from private server to private server.

>>1103274 I'll be straight up with you to save time, it's a massive grind time sink in which you spend hours somewhere to gain a level. In Artale pre-Aqua I was taking over 10 hour per level. It isn't a quest focused leveling game. Take that as you will.

>>1103082 holy shit this is gonna be huge

>>1103082 On the bright side, Royals and Legends are finally going to meet their well deserved end, Inkwell is absolutely going after their ass if he wants ClassicMS to succeed, and force all pserver players to move to official. On the other side? It is going to flop drastically after the novelty wears out, people are going to scratch their nostalgia itch then realize pre-BB actually SUCKED and move on with their lives because they are too old to keep pretending they're having fun after the first 30 levels.

>>1107152 Skill issue, I'll keep it alive personally.

>>1107178 I mean, there will probably be crossover events where playing Classic MS might give you rewards for Modern MS and vice versa, that would be one way for Inkwell to force people to keep it alive. What's the high IQ strat for Classic again? Go all in with a Cleric?

Ice/Lighting or Assassin?

>>1103082 It won't feel the same. I'm not the kid I was 19 years ago, unfortunately. Might be fun to try and see if older usernames pop up for this revival, but these nostalgia baiting attempts make this really sour for me to be quite honest. Sorry to be a party pooper.

I wanted to be excited but in the video they just kept repeating "this is how we're gonna capture what made classic MapleStory so great" several times and then didn't list one concrete thing that they would do to that end.

Break the habit, MMObros. Know that it's all a waste of time and it'll never be the same as it was 20 years ago; different community, different interests. Everybody is a hyperfocused efficiencytranny now, there is no fun to be found on MMOs anymore.

>>1107821 Assuming we have 4th job, mages will just fuck on every class. Though, avenger is sex.

>>1103082 They gonna shove pay2win shit on it, being it hp wash and 2x coupons like it used to be or even new pay2win shit.

ohhhh im soooomping im soooooompin

i just want them to remove HP washing and have an auction house like maple worlds did and it will be perfect. also to the guy crying about mages, they were completely suboptimal for bossing and were only good for farming. besides bishops obv, the best class in the game.

>>1112548 >lead game designer behind early Maplestory and Maplestory 2 yet almost nobody knew who the fuck she was until now how did she do it?

>>1103082 Going to go Bishop/Cleric like in the old days.

>>1103082 i'm just gonna say it. early post-bb >>> pre-bb. game peaked with chaos.

>>1114234 The instant they roll out potential is the moment I won't touch the game again.

>>1112591 >implying mages aren't going to make your farming rates look pathetic in comparison >implying you're not going to be paying mages for leech They own you little bro

I played the entirety of the GMS beta back in like 2004 or 2005 or whenever that was. When official MapleStory launched, I got a bunch of sweet Scania usernames like "Jesus". I have very fond memories of my MapleStory beta days, but I did not play official GMS for very long, because by the time that official GMS had launched, I had already played JMS to 3rd job so there was really nothing new for me to do. That said, I'm can't see myself playing this, except maybe to download it and play it for a minute just to say that I did. I played some MapleStory pservers a couple years ago when I got the itch (after having played Reboot to the mid 100s in like a couple days) and I have to say that I think the "post-Big Bang" MapleStory experience is much better. I wasn't around for the Big Bang, I quit well before that I think, but I think I'd rather play a modern MapleStory pserver than play an official relaunch of original MapleStory. The old jobs just weren't very fun when you get down to it. Post-BB is much closer to an actual video game, even if it's super fucking bloated with "content".

>>1103082 Will the Henehoes come back? I wanna erp with some blown out ones nostalgic for doing the same dam

Will the Henehoes be back? I wanna fuck some blown-out one who’s nostalgic for doing the same damn thing 20 years ago and make her feel wanted again

My bad

>>1115763 >Henehoes Excuse me, are you implying that Henesys that a thriving whore industry that I somehow wasn't privy to?

>>1115785 They have to, this only works if we get the right ratio of attention whores and grinders. The yappers needs to keep the gamers entertained, while the gamers keep the yappers motivated. Balance.

>>1115763 >>1115785 A lot of people in modern maple still use alliance chat and buddy chat a lot so there's a decent chance if the classic server is popular.

>>1112591 They also cause massive inflation and encourage leeching. There's a reason newer servers reign their asses in. And many people hated how they were only good for farming and never brought to bosses. It was awful design and everyone knows it.

>>1112591 farming is 99.9% of your game hours old ms had 2 bosses

>>1103916 Is it not possible/fun to play it casually? I don't even know what you do in the game and how you gain levels, it just looked fun.

>>1117481 Playing it casual is perfectly fine, there were a ton of people who just used it as a chatroom. This would be what henehoeing is.

>>1107211 Assuming they keep it classic with no balance changes, and we have 4th job/progress to 4th job patch eventually? Absolutely all in on lukless bishop.

>>1112591 >and were only good for farming. what do you think you will be doing in old school ms? socializing? that aspect of the game is dead, anon unless you get into some tryhard speedrunning cliques, most people will be trying to mind their own business like the other anon said, there aren't that many bosses to worry about to begin with and you will be outdamaging your average hermit anyway because it is just that faster to progress with mages, especially bishop which is going to be 99% of the population btw

>>1117752 Nice, I'll give it a try after all. I only played WoW very casually for a short time, but I had fun.

Did they say what content will be in it? what do they consider the cutoff point for classic?

>>1117054 pre-bb maplestory had a lot more than 2 bosses

>>1122170 I think he means when it first came out, there was Jr Balrog and later Zakum, I think the third boss was that fish or did ludi came out before the water area?

Bros does this mean I have another chance at getting a mentally ill goth GF? I came so close in the past on RuneScape and MS

>>1122170 >zak >ht >pb that's all the relevant ones

I wonder if they will keep PQ's the old way or change it so any amount of parties can be in there at the same time.

>>1103082 About damn time. Private Classic servers never really did it for me. People forget that part of the appeal of old Maple was the feeling of it being alive and partying with people and private servers all feel super dead. This one will actually be alive and active. Looking forward to henehoeing and PQing with you lads again when this comes out.

>>1122696 i think you would be disappointed when the vast majority of people will metagame the fuck out of it and move incredibly quick through all of the "content".

>>1123408 This. There is no feeling of "community" anymore with MMOs. A huge majority of players only care about efficiency and lack of time waste. It's a race only the biggest losers can win and the only way to win is to not play.

making the experience 1:1 the same as back then is not a great idea longevity wise they will need to try balancing nostalgia and progress people so hellbent on going back to killing one mushroom at a time are just a loud minority hell, just take a look at the kimetsu no yaiba collab people are barely reaching 210 before giving up on tanjiro because "the mobbing is bad", "the bonus exp is a scam", "the skillset is boring" old maple is mind numbingly boring in comparison, most people are going to give up you will see dozens of people dropping out without even graduating out of henesys hunting grounds 1

>>1123408 people really need to take what happened with wow classic to heart. reviving old MMOs to relive the past just doesn't work. without some kind of filter in place (i.e. the process of accessing a private server) the modern MMO audience will optimize all the fun out of the game.

>>1123408 This is pretty much the problem with the modern MMO mindset. Maplestory was fun because you hung out with people while grinding. Maybe do a PQ now and again. Now a lot of people are going to race to the end since the game is already figured out.

>>1103082 I know that Maplestory has always been a Windows-exclusive, but I'd be really happy if it was cross-platform. Probably not, since if I'm not mistaken, their anticheat would make that a tall ask, but seeing how they're porting Blue Archive to Steam, one can hope.

>>1122600 >cwkpq and its bosses >scarlion and taiga or whatever they are called >anego and the other showa bosses Also a shitlot of other bosses like bigfoot and HH for exp farming

>>1125303 mac support is coming, maybe it'll work on linux as well.

>>1124132 Some people will tough it out. I know I got to 137 in Artale before Leafre finally dropped. I mean yeah, 1~101 was made easier and classes were buffed, but there's still plenty that love the game.

People insisted that wow classic would die in a week, people would get bored, no one wants to do attunments, etc, yet it's still popular years later. Same things were said about runescape classic, and it's even more popular than modern runescape. These arguments fall on their face every time. Now imagine how many people have been waiting for an official classic MS server. Not fartale or some other thing that is essentially a private server with nexon's implied blessing by not being shut down. I think people forget just how insanely popular the game was before the BB update.

>>1122352 Yes. She might even be a single mom. Imagine. We're all going to fucking make it.

>>1124132 >The skillset is boring Anon, tanjiro is essentially a class that stops at second job in a game with 6 job advancements. He is extremely boring and unfun and unrewarding to play both when grinding and bossing IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CURRENT GAME. Old school maple is way slower in general and plays completely different as a whole, but that doesn't mean it's not fun. It's a completely different context

>>1128572 lol right? If you're a warrior I sure hope you like slash blast and power strike for 120+ levels. And no final attack to spice things up because it literally lowers your dps.

I tried Maple once but I got confused by all the event UI stuff and gave up after an hour or two. What are the “classic” classes? I played as the Knight of Light guy but thought the class with the mech seemed cool.

if this will actually start from the earliest version possible,where it was only victoria island and progressively roll out the content i will literally become the cum

>>1126497 Maplestory was still decently popular in early postbb which I would argue is the true peak of the game. Unfortunately, it all went to shit when class mobility got out of control, and then they eventually just gave everyone a flash jump and full screen attacks, which just homogenized the game so dramatically. Map design also greatly suffered overtime to just be only optimized grinding layouts. You could say potentials killed it but that was introduced a little before the prebb update not to say that its defensible at all, or even Victoria Island's layout getting murdered which is a legitimate point.

>>1132301 Classic classes would be the mage/warrior/thief/archer, AND pirate(corsair is sex). A lot of the mobile UI elements came later, 100 clickables on your screen to take you to 100 event pages shouldn't be there. We grinded it out because it was good.

>>1103082 The people who created the problem cannot be depended upon to fix the problem

>>1137632 the problem is MMOs

>>1135122 Would be cool but I also wouldn't want them to roll out the content too slow. I don't want to outlevel being able to LPQ and OPQ for example. Could also lead to people quitting if there's not a lot of stuff to do.

nostalgiakeks be like

>>1141827 Fewer classes, sure. Especially with the insane power and mobility creep that kept on climbing. I could do without anything past Pirates.

>finally find a private server i like (banesauce) >this happens >private server is guaranteed to die on classic release Alright.

>>1142154 There's still like a year before Classic World launches so you can enjoy it for a while.

>>1142154 >banesauce >Thu Apr 20 2023 >in alpha for 2 years What?

>>1142533 but it's really going to launch for real this time (in several months)

streamers are going to ruin the shit out of classic everyone will be donating gear and mesos to them while they buy gachapons and 2x coupons from donation money >>1123408 this as well, happened on Artale random Kronos lvl 290 dude in a mid-core guild was the #1 hermit >>1126146 impressive, what class?

>wanting auction house Artale steely dupe + RWT noped the fuck out

we needed classic maple back in 2015 really no one will have an enjoyable experience today >streamerfags always having a PQ or grinding party any time they are on >nu-maple sloppers who drop $2k monthly on MVP red will go all in and try to be the next tiger/suushi/fangblade >third world service sellers will be grinding for both streamers and tryhards instead of a legit race to 200 >possible FM dupe/storage exploits out the ass >trooncord cliques controlling the market and boss economy + having blacklists for non-LGBT players >getting muted for 1 week/1month because you named the jew in chat and was spam reported by 15 different trooncords

>>1142911 None of this is any different than fresh private server releases. Someone will always outspend you, someone will always have a more reliable static than you. It's not a big deal. You seem like a numapler.

>>1142962 nigger private servers come up and die in a week these days because of all the things i mentioned you're a retard if you think "its not a big deal" because all these things take away from nostalgia of playing pre-bb

>>1142911 Everything you named is why I think "Classic" WoW and "Classic" Maple and "Classic" whatever else is kind of dumb. You simply cannot have a "Classic" experience of any MMO in modern times. Everything is too optimized and "webbed" and jewish. For example, you will *never* see a high level player with nonoptimal stats like you used to, and rather than just aimlessly grinding while having fun, people are going to nolife grind race with dedicated coordinated groups that have mapped everything out weeks/months in advance. Things simply are no longer how they used to be, and even release something identical to what it was in 2005 cannot possibly be "the same" in 2025.

>>1143038 >because all these things take away from nostalgia of playing pre-bb Yeah bro, I miss everyone running PG hack at WS or just mapvaccing. I need the true fucking experience.

>>1143065 did you not play artale? there was literally chinese botters day and night who would come back the next day after being banned with a new name like qwyue7123 while i sat muted for a week for saying fuck kikes, the only way to find a party was to ask in the fucking dicksword channel thats going to be the classic experience as well >>1143048 yeah WoW Classic was literal cancer, everyone suddenly had 3 proffession alts making 500g daily and raiding on two different accounts

>>1103209 i did 35-71 at wraiths it sucked

>>1143143 >did you not play artale? No, I've been waiting for official classic servers. Last old school server I played was a year or two ago.

>>1143048 Everyone is going to optimize their stats of course, but if they take some inspiration from mapleland shit like (stat)less builds may not be much of an issue. For example they nerfed maple weapons to be on par with other weapons and come with the same stat requirements as normal weapons because the community felt they were too powerful and eclipsed every other weapon in the level ranges for many classes, which they were and did. I believe they also nerfed/nixed sauna and/or bathrobes for the same reasons.

>>1143207 There are now thousands of zoomers who can grind as much as fangblade and tiger. I am a 35 year old retired neet and I was gapped by random zoomers, streamers, chinks ,and nu-maplers even though I grinded 8 hours a day for a month on artale. I wasn't even top 100.

>>1109640 I haven't played an MMO since I was 15. It was around that time I realized everything was p2w, and real life sucked the magic out of it.

>>1143379 I'm aware there are a lot of grinders out there. When throne and liberty came out, I was on that all day while working as long as nothing got too neglected. That game requires a bit of effort, I could easily hold my footpedal down and afk some flat map while keeping track of the screen for a botcheck, all day. There's certainly nothing wrong with not being able to do that, there will be a ton of people who can't.

>>1143048 I somewhat agree, but honestly, most people even back in 2005 were also optimizing a lot. Everyone was using skill & stat builds back then, the skill building was even more autistic back then, where people would look up follow plans for every single level up. I know it won't be the same, but I've got some friends who also played MS back in the day and hope to reach at least 3rd job with them.

>>1143431 Botting is old meta now. You're going to get sussed out by trooncord patrols. Zoomers play legit + pay2win + buy grinding service when they log out to go to work/school.

>>1143497 The most people did back then was maybe remake a warrior or sin to be dexless after funding to maybe lvl 70-80 (highest lvls pre-orbis release) No one was multi boxing 12 mages on their inbuilt macro storage 20 button fightsticks like they do today. You will see streamers unapologetically do something like buy 100 ap resets to get enough dex to hit something 20 levels higher then reset back to 4 dex when they get enough levels. If you want to save your sanity get to 70 and quit until maple weapons come out otherwise you'll be competing against masters LoL streamers with 2k viewers buying thousands of gachapons

>>1143814 >until maple weapons come out I pray they either get nerfed or cut entirely. Like players in maple land have realized, they're just another bullshit gateway to degenerate builds and warps the gear progression entirely around themselves.

Some of you guys have a really weird and unhealthy relationship with maplestory. You're clearly ridiculously invested in parts of the game that literally nobody cares about. To most people, MS was just a chatroom. The entire game is designed so that you kill 3 monsters, run out of MP, and then sit on a chair chatting with your friends while it recovers. That's Maplestory. Not whatever weird shit you care about like *checks previous posts* "streamers having lots of resources" or "inflation" or... "mages"???? In no universe is anyone asking for classic MS because they want a game where poopsockers don't exist, the economy is good (lmao at the very idea) and all classes are equally good at farming. You and the wider playerbase have completely different expectations of this game. I thought the racial slur comment was especially funny, like the reason private servers die is because there's a massive and vitally important community of nomadic antisemites getting kicked out of one server after another.

>>1103082 They should update the game by putting in map-wide public voice chat. Chatrooms are outdated, everyone's used to VC. To accurately replicate the feeling of walking into the FM in 2005, you need to max out the user's headphones with incomprehensible screeching the moment they walk through the door.

So, what's the catch? I mean other than the potential lack of players, they're bound to do something that'll ruin everything right?

>>1145856 Instead of being the actual original game, it looks like it's a recreation of the original game inside of the modern maplestory client as a separate world you select. This means you have to download current maple to play it (like 50gb) and it might also mean some things aren't exactly like they used to be. From the trailer we can already see stuff like down jumping and being able to use ranged attacks at melee. But I guess the biggest catch would be how they want to monetize the server, whether they will introduce p2w items or let it purely be cosmetics driven.

>>1145263 >>1145397 you're in the absolute minority of MMO players, this is not 2005 anymore, there is nothing novel about a chat room. but i also don't get the idea of being obsessed with being top 100 or whatever when there isn't even a pvp or resource incitement for that. my only gripe with that is leeching, i think they should completely cut it off and make it an unviable leveling strategy.

>>1142639 Did it as a Sniper. Only got one level since, and it was off of Zakum. Getting to 130 off of Vikings was something else, but I have to acknowledge that my class was boosted to kill faster and they used a later iteration of the Vikings map with more sniping platforms.

>>1146423 getting asshurt about leeching is why nexon completely murdered any kind of party play(like LHC) and eventually instanced everything it is fundamentally impossible to create a system that incentivizes people playing together without also potentially enabling those who desire to to leech classic case of overmoderation ruining game mechanics, just ignore it

>>1147763 >just ignore it no, the most optimal way of playing the game being afk is retarded and not healthy for the game.

>>1142911 >twitch shilling in chat no we dont need that. even better if they blacklist it. dont want any streamer targeted ddos periods.

>>1145856 >So, what's the catch? I mean other than the potential lack of players, they're bound to do something that'll ruin everything right? its probably some monetized mobile like version of classic maplestory, many such titles come to mind that went that route of testing the waters through mobile classic first before bringing back a shit classic server

>>1146317 Also looks like everyone has higher than hp values in the vid. If their solution to hp washing is to just bump up everyone's hp growth, I'm totally cool with that. I'm tired of every server's """solution""" is to subject the player to some ridiculous time or meso sink for some bandaid work around to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. Everyone having more hp isn't going to "ruin" the game, nobody but idiots dies to alishar in the first place, and the world will keep turning.

let's face it, 99% of players are just going to speedrun as priests in order to rake all the modern ms rewards as soon as possible then bail the remaining 0.9% are going to be the royals/legends population who will have to forcefully move to classic ms because nexon wanting to monetize classic ms means they will sue the shit out of pservers, and they cannot win a financial attrition battle against a megacorp and the final 0.1% is the true amount of "old good new bad" nostalgiafreaks who will somehow come back/move from modern and manage to stick for longer than a week despite the realization that old ms actually sucked huge dick and nobody treats maplestory as a glorified chatroom anymore, especially now that discord exists

>>1148807 Training with your buds is fun, if you somehow like the Maple grind.

>>1148287 It's going to happen anyway. And it's going to be pure cancer just like it sounds. Streamers will be freely advertising their shit through smegas all day and night, therefore dividing the community by creating large 200+ person guilds that are just there to give them mesos and items and worship them. It already happened on a minor scale in Artale.

>>1148160 then don't complain when they ruin party play (again) maple has 'struggled' with this issue since its inception and nexon's answers have consistently driven the game into its current state as a single player grind fest with a a chat box attached

>>1145263 You just don't get it, people don't think like this anymore. If Nexon says there is a $50 starter package with a pet and gachapons literally everyone will buy it and call you a loser poorfag if you don't. No one is going to go FUCK NEXON THATS STRAIGHT PAY2WIN anymore. Consoomers won. Sloppa won. You will eat up Nexon classic slop and not complain about anything.

>>1150895 There are plenty of people that are proud to never touch world coin items to sell off for mesos.

>>1148807 Damn right I’m going to roll a priest, it’s a straight upgrade to wizard which I would have played anyway.

>>1151725 >selling world coins for mesos that's one of the reasons i dropped Artale around level 100 it was obvious people were getting ahead of me as they sold enough WC to buy 50+ atk claws(75-100mil) ,steelies (150mil) while I just had tobis and a 48 att 'rab

>>1153840 Artale had other frustrating aspects like star drop rates. I never found a damn star in that game ever though I spent an inordinate amount of time at Vikings. Making star drops so rare because you only need one was such a detriment. Assassins had a hard time self farming them (and it's only worth farming ilbis), and people in certain training spots didn't get the jackpot drop to cover potion costs or allow them to make a profit. Not only that, but stars became even cheaper than their OSMS counter parts. Tobis eventually became less than a mil while in OSMS they were hovering around a mil with so many tobis and ilbis in circulation because you only need a single star to upgrade. I heard China is getting their own Maplestory server called Blue Shell or Blue Snail or whatever, hopefully it curbs the amount of CN/TW people coming into a NA server, because those are the biggest pay to get ahead players. Even streamers frequently training with 24/7 snowflakes/flowers were bowing out to Asian players due to their spending habits. It really depends how much value you put on player ranking and gear, because it's more than just money since CN/TW top players account share as well. In the end people that spent minimal to no money get the last laugh knowing Artale was a fictional server on Maplestory Worlds and didn't go balls into it.

>>1158284 >CN/TW people coming into a NA server, because those are the biggest pay to get ahead players. unfortunately the westernized asians in Cali/Toronto that make up 80% of the current playerbase are the exact same. anyone can make $20/hr these days just driving uber or doordash and buy themselves a full week of grinding service on pixelmarket its even worse than account sharing as at least that is done legit, most times these service sellers just use macro/bots as well so there is absolutely no way of ever competing fairly in the race to 200 in classic hell i can already see people setting up deals over discord to sell NX for mesos without even needing an auction house to straight pay2win

another thing is the game is going to go up/down whenever nu-maple is having maintenance as well, basically resetting all the field bosses, FM, and hot spot maps and you will need to base your whole schedule around these downtimes...its going to suck ass...

>>1132223 Maybe so, but imagine the whispers I'll get from all the e-girls once I start dragon roaring in henny 1

>>1164923 there will be no cute girls to groom this time anon, this is actually the deadest of the classic delusions you may get a few terminally mentally challenged 30+ women, and instead of guys pretending to be girls to scam you out of mesos, you will get actual tranny freaks trying to have e-sex with you but not ironically

>>1103082 Let me know when Ragnarok Online Classic comes out. Happy for you guys though.

>>1143413 I refuse to play any game with any level of microtransaction, barring one (1): a subscription fee. Anything outside that, even "harmless" paid skins with "no mechanical advantage" (this is a lie in most cases, in Call of Duty, people who buy skins are proven to be placed in winners' queue). I will NEVER play a game with P2W of any kind whatsoever, even OSRS Bonds style membership.

>in the coming months >later half of 2025 So we can't even think of a release date before spring of 26 then. No point in getting hyped then

>>1167062 Just the fact that it won't be a separate client and we will need to download nu-maple already gives me bad vibes. We won't be able to truly start fresh as all the IGNs will already be taken. There is already a lot of hate for classic on the MapleStory subreddit. Nu-maplers are already asking to tie some kind of rewards from pre-bb to their nu-maple account. It's not going to go well.

>>1143569 just set an alarm if: <you stop moving for X seconds <a player enters the map <you die <you're moved to another map etc pixel bots can handle the stuff above, though it's easier to do if you can read memory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l3FvedlrKo >>1167498 those are all sus behaviors if any troons come to record you