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/40k/ Thread Anonymous 03/14/2025 (Fri) 03:39:02 Id: f08494 No. 1079324
Discuss Warhammer 40k games and lore. Previous thread >>1047230
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FOR THE EMPEROR
>>1079326 UNDYING LOYALITY!
Writefag here I have ideas in my head but haven't put anything to paper yet. Guide my pen hand to which one I focus on and write: >Fresh Night Lord who gets stranded on an isolated Imperial planet >Sons of Malice sergeant and his escapades with his skeleton crew warband >Emperor's Children captain >Something focused on Dark Mechanicum
>>1079335 >Sons of Malice sergeant and his escapades with his skeleton crew warband I kinda like this idea.
>>1079335 >>1079336 One addendum: The EC and Mechanicum one aren't very detailed since I didn't really meditate on their proposed stories yet, so it might be best to just pick between the Night Lords and the Sons of Malice stories. As an additional detail for both: <Night Lord becomes something like the Night Haunter for the planet he is stranded on...with a twist <The Sons of Malice one has encounters with loyalists as well as traitors, and will go a lot into the Sons of Malice mindset (Malus worshippers in general)
Where da game list
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>>1079343 Both are interesting premises as we don't have much writefag stuff regarding chaos, or even having nuanced stuff like renegade Marines. >>1079345 I'm gonna be working on the rec list again, I had to pause it due to irl shit. I will be adding more stuff and, feel free to criticise any choices anons.
>>1079352 To be fair, coming into a 40k thread and complaining about seeing space marines is like heading to Detroit and being surprised to see niggers.
>>1079393 What a fucking post.
>>1079351 Looking forward to the final results.
>>1079324 Space Marine 3 makes me very happy, especially considering the wait between the first and second games.
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>>1079393 Niggers? In my space marines?
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>>1079326 >>1079332 What is even with the Alpha legion? Are they just wildcards?
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>>1079804 the short of it is that the alpha legions primarch Omegon is secretly a loyalist. So he will send them on missions that seem like they hurt the imperium but actually help them in the long run. problem is he can't just declare himself to be loyal because a lot of legionnaires are full-on traitors. In general if people know the alpha legion is there then they probably want you to know they are there.
>>1079804 At this point I'm not even sure if the fucking Alpha legion themselves know what side they're on.
>>1079804 This guy >>1079807 describes the situation pretty well. Canonically - we know this thanks to the Horus Heresy books - their primarch Alpharius "died" transferred his soul and mind into a rank and file Alpha Legionnaire while his body, inhabited then by the rank and file guy, was slain by Rogal Dorm and Omegon is on the loose doing whatever. Nobody knows Omegon exists except Alpharius, some Eldar, and the Emperor himself, apparently Big E never told Horus that Alpharius was actually the first-found and he never even told Alpharius that Omegon existed until Alpharius found him by himself later. Omegon is presumably still in his primarch body although for all we know, he could have gone through the same sorcery that Alpharius did and is chilling out somewhere. tl;dr I am Alpharius
>>1079829 There's at least one Alpha Legionnaire who knows Omegon is alive, and he's currently interrogating a shard of the Deceiver about his location, which might be GW cockteasing us that the "Giant in green armor" in Trazyn's collection might be Omegon... if it's not Vulkan like they flip flopped on already.
>>1079887 Omegon should be the same size as a normal space marine, or at least damn near the same size. I don't think they'd describe him as a giant unless it were by normal human standards
>>1079594 Tbh, there shouldn't be black niggers in space marines. (Except in Salamanders) They all have a melanchromic organ that regulates the amount of melanin in their skin to suit the environment. So, every marine in a given locale should have roughly the same skin tone.
Are there any decent classic 40k games? As in, 1980s to mid 1990s? All the good games seem to be from this century.
>>1079955 I haven't played it myself but a lot of people praise vengeance of the blood angels.
>>1079955 A list is being made here to rec >>1079351 all the decent 40k games, it'll include older games too.
>>1079955 Final Liberation
>>1079969 Where’s that screencap from? I’ll be sad if it’s not from a movie.
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>>1079976 Read the post and then think for a bit.
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>>1079978 Damn shame.
>>1079980 There hasn't been a good 40k movie yet. Mostly because it would require a very expensive budget to bring the scale of that universe to the big screen.
>>1080012 Listen there is a lot of bullshit in 40k that I will accept. There is no fucking way anyone will figure out a G11 in this goddamned galaxy.
>>1080008 Cmon, you know what I was referring to. Actual films put on the silver screen, in movie theaters.
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>>1080012 >11 <IX
Tau look like shit. I don’t mean their technology, by the way, I mean the Tau themselves. Their actual canon design and not the fanart. Noseless earless blue humans with vaginas in their foreheads. You can tell GW had a real hard time making an original design, and they failed miserably. Honestly, they should have just used another fantasy race. The tyrannids are the only major aylmao faction with good non-fantasy-based designs and even they’re still ripped off something else i.e. xenomorphs. I’d suggest saurians, because at least they look cool.
>>1080108 I think it's a fine compromise if their blue skinned selves look rather boring because they are almost always in their mech suits, which are far cooler than their un-meched selves
>>1080108 >>1080138 Saurians but they're Asian dragons
HELLO FELLOW IMPERIALS!
>>1080150 This is impossible because space marine psycho conditioning runs deep, so deep that even traitor space marines still actively hate xenos even after betraying the imperium. Too bad Big E couldn't do the same thing for chaos, unless the Horus Heresy was all part of his master plan.
>>1080219 If the Bluies got a hold of some geneseed though... And wasn't it implied that the 2nd Primarch might have been a xenos sympathizer? Or was it the 11th?
>>1080220 It really comes down to whatever the writer want, but from an in-universe perspective are space marines even worth the trouble of making? I'm not familiar with Tau lore, but a small mechsuit could do the same things they can, and the process of making them would be less convoluted. There's no reason for Tau to make their own space marines, and it seems impossible lorewise to recruit those that already exist.
>>1080221 Tau don't even consider space marines as beings they can influence or convince of the greater good, they regard them as living weapons. But they will still try to negotiate, astartes aren't on the "shoot on sight" list like the Orks, Tyranids, and Dark Eldar.
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>>1080150 Absolutely heretical garbage, delete this fucking dogshit.
>>1080222 Well you can technically negotiate with Space Marines in the situation of a greater enemy, can't do that with Orks,Tyranids or the Dark Eldar.
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>>1080221 >Tau lore
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>>1080237 >can't do that with Orks Offer them enough shinies and maybe a hat and they will.
>>1080254 You think if someone tried to negotiate with the position of places where Tyranids are attacking/attacked they would take the offer?
I think I fucked up in Rogue Trader Anons. My Dark Eldar party member is now hunting lower deck crew for sport.
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>>1080317 What did you expect was gonna happen when you let a Dark Eldar onto your ship?
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Why is 60% of the Warhammer fandom super gay and the other 60% super fash? Those numbers add to 120% because there is considerable overlap between these groups
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>>1080317 you expected anything else from the race of hyper edgelords that literally live off being edgy?
>>1080323 Because niggers get no greater pleasure than capturing and ruining an IP, which breeds a greater response from the real fans.
>>1080317 It's fine, you're on the heretic route so a few casualties for sport are hardly an issue. You ARE on the heretic route, aren't you? You'd have to be... otherwise, why would you let a Xeno, let alone a cartoonishly evil edgelord who literally tried to kill and torture your entire party at every opportunity, roam free on your ship? Are you a woman? Did you think you could "fix" him? Was this supposed to be your Twilight arc? I bet you stopped Argenta from putting a well deserved bolt through Idira's head, too.
>>1080334 >Did you think you could "fix" him? Was this supposed to be your Twilight arc? Okay but if you flip that around as a rich ancient vampress and a indigenous shewolf who both want your hand in marriage (and your seed), you can absolutely understand Bella's predicament. You pick the WEREWOLF what is wrong with you Bella
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>>1080336 Already exists.
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>>1080339 That's the joke.
>>1080323 Because Fantasy and Tabletop in general has always been full of comic tier emasculated geek faggots and it's only gotten faggier since, but Warhammer always attracted a lot of more masculine guys due to how metal it looks. So you get both in the same IP, which is slowly and surely dying due to popularity and more and more faggots flooding it.
>>1080317 You get what you fucking deserve
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>>1080317 You fucking idiot.
>>1080357 >but Warhammer always attracted a lot of more masculine guys Like yourself :^} >due to how metal it looks You’re aware of how many gay faggots are in metal, are you not?
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>>1080323 Because everyone who likes 40k is a nerd, and all nerds are spergy retards. Just like people who post on imageboards
>>1080323 >Fash It's okay, you play White Wolf games you find plenty of gay tankies so it balances out.
>>1080323 because it's on course to be the next marvel
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>>1080323 I think the fash is obvious with 40k's overt Hugo Boss fashion and extreme human imperialism. The Gay is a very recent thing and if I were to guess, it stems from reddit, Discord and typical online zoomer culture as 40k has rapidly gotten more mainstream. If you look up gay 40k art on Rule 34 you'll get 8 pages, page 8 is art from 2010-2021, the remaining 7 pages are all 2021 onward. You see also this with edgy zoomerbait like Ultrakill, and I feel like the same thing is going on there.
>>1080480 reminder the artist is a korean femcel that lost her shit when people weren't too keen on femstodes
>>1080481 You don't need say that's fujo art, a gay man did not fucking draw that.
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>>1080323 >and the other 60% super fash? It's just satire.
>>1080481 Don't worry, I'm familiar with Archon of Flesh and that's partially why I picked her as the example representing the strange new breed of 40k fan. Those said fans are also here by the way, as seen with how many are familiar with drama on the 40k reddit.
>>1080484 damn the artist is super racist
>>1080485 >Those said fans are also here by the way Yes, you are one of them.
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>>1080357 God you're fucking retarded.
>>1080406 >Like yourself? Yes, I never got into the tabletop, I'm a filthy secondary that thinks that shit is too expensive, though I'd really like collecting WW2 miniatures. My entry point was DoW like many people >You’re aware of how many gay faggots are in metal? I know, Metal just any subculture nowadays is gay as fuck, I'm just saying it looks rad and that that attracts less pasty nerds. >>1080531 Prove me wrong, whole tabletop and miniature hobby is either pasty geeks or chainsmoking uncles.
>>1080317 Are you retarded?
>>1081253 Reddit-tier tbh Is that last one some kind of Chinese snuff cuck art? Truly horrible if so
>>1081325 >Snuff cuck art In one of the Mallus Darkblade books the dark elves gleefully talk about how they raped a man's wife to death to his face. I'm surprised the nu-fans haven't raised a stink about it, but those fag don't play Fantasy anyway.
>>1081452 What's funny is how nu fans try to pretend Slaanesh and his forces don't commit acts of murder rape. The Dark Eldar also running trains on Craftworld Eldar and Humans.
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>>1082420 If the Dark Eldar love to murder/rape/torture/scat their enemies (and each other) so much - then why don't they just give their souls over to Slaanesh? Why are they hiding in a pain citadel in a pocket of the webway away from her gaze? Yeah yeah yeah, she consumes their souls in agonizing torment. Vore and Guro? You'd think that'd be a turn-on for them. It makes about as much sense as a satanist hiding out in an abandoned church because they're scared that the Devil will come get them.
>>1082433 They do the fuck up shit to placate Slaanesh's drain on their souls.
>>1082433 They aren’t sadomasochists, they’re just sadists. Still, I find them thematically incohesive and redundant as a faction when slaaneshmarines exist.
>>1082433 They believe that torturing and raping and causing pain will barricade them and their souls against Slaanesh and the ruinous powers. They fear the fuck out of Chaos and the Warp, even moreso than the vanilla Eldar.
>>1082468 >behaving in exactly the way that fuels and invites slaanesh will barricade them and their souls from slaanesh. I thought it was because they cut themselves off from the warp and now have to feed on suffering to survive. …Even though if they cut themselves off from the warp it should be impossible to do physics defying nonsense like “feeding on emotions”.
>>1082441 Huh, I thought they were into masochism too. Something about them occasionally volunteering to be tortured for the entertainment of it because they got off on the thrill and exhibition of it.
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>>1082525 That was before Slaneesh, they had rape dungeon dimensions for all kinds of degenerate acts, including that. The biggest degenerates in the deepest rape dungeon dimensions were the ones that survived but still get their souls sucked out by Slaneesh slowly but surely, which is why they need to keep dishing out suffering to stave off Slaneesh. Slaneesh is pretty much keeping them hostage, and that's what the Dark Eldar are, slaves to their own vices.
>>1082518 It's a bit more that their psychic powers have atrophied from lack of use, but they do still have some connection like most living things do. Being a psyker is one of the few things explicitly forbidden in Commoragh, since it risks causing warp rifts and the like.
>>1082982 They've become twice as strong as a craftworld Eldar to make up for the lack of Psykers.
>>1082528 I guess that's the face you make when you realize mutilating your body won't fix your depression.
Ditch Jihad's bullshit managed to make GW look good in comparison.
>>1084229 It's another situation like with Helldivers where the community was getting hyped up but then the company couln't help but shoot themselves in the foot by running their mouth or letting one of their "community managers" fuck everything up.
>>1084287 Reddit ruins everything it touches and the sjws they sucked off want an atheist faction. In a setting where everyone knows God exists and demons are flooding into reality.
So what's the story with Trench Crusade?
>>1084347 Something along the lines of: >"How do you, fellow woke-haters!" >"Aren't you tired of 40GAY Wokehammer??" >"Get into this basted and redpilled spehss prussia game now on kickstarter!" <"wow, sounds völkish as fugg:DD" t. 102% PVRE BAVARIAN stock >"RREEE INTERNET RACISTS GET OUT!"
>>1084347 It advertised itself as being grimdark so a bunch of 40k fags wanted to try it after the custodes debacle. All of them got banned from the discord for being suspected of being on the rightwing. Now the left is calling them racist and eurocentrist after they revealed their map.
>>1084312 Reminder you're in the reddit thread :^) >>1084350 It's weirdly common for vaguely "anti-woke" centrists to pander to far-right internet communities then get really pissy when they attract the far-right. That said I'm not sure the creators said this, I think others said it and the creators and/or community immediately told them to fuck off
>>1084312 The satanists are the atheist faction :^}
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>>1084355 The fags behind Trench Crusade are anything but centrist.
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>>1079324 Still no Survival Mode, still no Dreadnaught Mode, PTR taking forever. >>1084347 >So what's the story with Trench Crusade? Cancer.
>>1084347 >story explicitly has Christianity real >bans even discussing the idea that Aztecs, who literally had a religion with human sacrifice and ritual consumption of human blood as core tenets, as demon cult would fit the setting because that's raycist
>>1084390 >Demon portal in Croatia TOP KEK
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>>1084427 das rite!
>>1084354 It advertised itself as old school grimdark, started attracting people burnt out with 40k, plus the story essentially confirming Christianity is real and God exists appealed to the right in general. So the leftists making the game immediately knee jerked, started screaming "SATIRE, THE CHRISTIANS ARE ACTUALLY THE EVIL ONES!!!!111!!" and generally chasing away people they could have pumped for money had they kept their mouths shut. Just like Helldivers.
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>>1084634 >Just like Helldivers. If somebody couldn't tell Helldivers was making fun of nationalistic jingoism, they're an idiot to begin with.
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>>1084677 WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN "IT WAS SHAM"??? I MOVED TO FUCKIN BUENES AIRES FOR THIS SHIT
>>1084677 gives some people a sense of camaraderie they feel it's missing IRL
>>1084677 I watch starship troopers as a pro fascist film to spite Verhoeven.
>>1084390 Wait that's the grimdark map? It's fucking tame, at least with 40k you genuinely understand how fucked the galaxy is for both Humans and xenos.
>>1084750 /tg/ refugee here before, I was banned from that nightmare it was being hardcore astroturfed by, the creators pretending to be Anons. The mods were in on it and banning anyone who, called the BS out about the blatantly inorganic threads, even r/HorusGalaxy had these fence sitters shilling it. Big reason I ended up posting with you guys. >>1080317 >He let a fucking Dark Eldar aboard You Muppet.
>>1084908 The game is being shilled to levels I've never seen in years.
Still waiting for anon rant on trench crusade
>>1086768 I'll be posting it soonish
Today I'm going to explain why Trench crusade is a trainwreck of titanic proportions and why it’s the definition of grimdrep and reddit as a whole or it’s /r/atheism subreddit, so sit down this will take a read anons. >Why do you refer to it as grimderep anon? Because it tries larping as grimdark despite having no understanding of what the term entails, for one TC’s lore states that Humanity has been fighting for its life for 800 years, since the crusade and subsequent opening of the gates of hell into the mortal realm. But as you can see from TC’s official map, Hell only has the territories of the Eastern Roman Empire, the Levant, Yugoslavia, Egypt, Libya, parts of Saudi Arabia, southern Spain along with a tip of Morocco and a random area of northern Europe, where the portal randomly opens whenever. This map doesn’t show an immense 800 year struggle of humanity against the forces of evil, but a map that at best shows 80 years of conflict. >But the Demons make up for power what they lack in territory anon! Fun fact most of the Demons are infighting in Hell over who gets to conquer Earth and the forces of evil in Trench Crusade, are mortal heretics who fight for hell and the various demonic lords. But what makes it reddit edginess is that any human, who wishes to join hell must go to the gates of Hell and enter it, then go to Hell and get out to be permitted to be part of Hell’s legions. But where it continues the reddit grimdrep is that any mortals who get near the gate, immediately have their flesh melted to the bones, so only the most evil of the evil that hell recognizes can enter with no harm. THAT’S THE LEVEL OF EDGE WE’RE DEALING WITH HERE. >Why don’t the Demons just field their own kind to fight on the front? In TC’s lore due to the covenant which honestly is a dumber version of Diablo’s Angels and Demons pact to not directly interfere, Heaven nor Hell can directly fight on the Earth as if they do that breaks the covenant, which means Armageddon and forced drama why God or Heaven can’t help us. So in TC we aren’t even fighting hell just fucking reddit edgelords who are so evil that hell accepts them as fighters, who after 800 years haven’t made any real ground in this war. >Where does it become /r/atheism the war game? The devs claim that there are no good guys and that the Christians are just as bad as hell, due to the methods they use to survive. Yes the Christians who are fighting against hell trying to murderfuck them out of existence, are just as bad as objective evil who want to wipe Humanity out. Also the Muslim faction constantly blames Christans for the state of the world, since a band of templars who were corrupted by hell did the ritual that opened the gates. Due to the devs being Reddit they love to leave out why the Crusades started, but since that would require pointing out that Islamic armies wanted to conquer Europe, they’ll keep quiet since /r/atheism doesn’t like attacking anything that isn’t Christianity. They also state that this isn’t a Christian themed game despite having heavy themes of it. >Why did they screech at 40k fans? For those who aren’t familiar with the state I’ll give you a brief rundown, GW has been taken over by left wing idiots who’ve been fucking the lore with retcons to appeal to progressive leftists. Naturally many 40k fans wanted to find a new grimdark series to move onto, Trench Crusade appeared to be the perfect fit as it was a bleak christian themed game, about fighting hell in an alt WW1 setting. Made 40k fans drool in excitement as it seemed a genuine alternative to 40k appearned, so a hype train was made for TC as the discords were flooded with 40k fans. Most upcoming companies would be insanely happy and take this opportunity to strengthen the brand, but due to TC’s creators being Reddit leftist they had a meltdown over 40k fans due a large number of them leaning right, and Christians due to the reddit atheist DNA. Which led to the left wing mods banning a very large number of potential customers that would’ve spent thousands if they weren’t stupid leftists, who hated the exact demographic the game they were making attracted. TC triples down and defends the moderation’s 40k and Chrisitan mass ban, which drove down the massive hype they garnered. It was then dug up that TC’s creators were former Blizzard, WOTC and that TC was funded by 28-mag, which is an extremely left wing TableTop gaming magazine group. Who due their own retardation went masks off too early, thus ruining their plans to garner a massive chunk in the /tg/ sphere from GW and BattleTech. >How are they doing now? Currently the left wing drones in the TableTop scene are shilling super hardcore across Reddit, 4chan, Youtube, Twitter and at conventions. But, in a massive twist of irony the very left they shilled for is calling them Eurocentric racists for the game’s European focused setting. Expect the Left wingers in TableTop in the coming months to years to try, and make this the left’s version of 40k. >But isn’t GW infested by left wingers anon? Yes but much of the fanbase is very right wing or Libertarian and GW, still can’t fully pozz as much as they'd like without taking a major financial hit. The Left wing part of TableTop wanted something pozzed from the ground up, but failed to understand that sjws don’t have the same buying power the right wing has. TC also failed to understand that since Trump’s recent re-election, much of the right in many of the entertainment spheres feel emboldened to go on the offensive against left wing creators. So they won’t forget the slight dealt against them. >What now? Point and laugh anons.
>>1086806 This is leddit the war game incarnate.
>>1086813 I can't get over it myself anon.
>>1086806 >Former Blizzard and WOTC I hope they all get cancer
>>1086806 Shame, really, because i thought the setting was neat. Oh well, at least i can get the rules/models for free somewhere.
>>1086806 > Heaven nor Hell can directly fight on the Earth as if they do that breaks the covenant, which means Armageddon and forced drama why God or Heaven can’t help us. That doesn't even make any sense, because if things ever got as bad as it is in the setting then God would just say "OK we're done here. Time for the End of Days and Last Judgment." That's literally in the Bible even. >And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
>>1086824 Most reddit atheist have never read the Bible.
>>1086819 Unfortunately, cancer can't develop cancer, anon.
>>1086819 It explains the safe edgy.
>>1086833 Fucking hate all of it, nobody has any balls anymore thanks to cocksuckers like this sanitizing everything in a ill fated attempt to push for mass comsumption. Now we get shit like Fortnite on a daily basis.
>>1086837 What I think what bugs me the most about the Trench Crusade shit is that it manged to make a setting about Hell invading in a WW1 setting feel safe. That takes talent.
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>>1086806 The current drama is amusing enough, but just wait until the writers are forced into having to explain what the rest of the fucking planet has been doing for the last 800 years. There is no worldbuilding around the butthurt and seethe that will be generated from both the tradcaths and reddit athiests. Even the greatest writer in the world couldn't save them from the hole they've dug themselves into trying to appease both sides during all-time high of moral and political posturing.
>>1086843 Well, they got super butthurt when someone on their forums suggested that since Aztecs partook in human sacrifice and blood rituals, they'd be perfect for being targeting by a demon impersonating one of their gods and corrupting them. Naturally, they screamed "RACIST!" and banned him. The only other idea I've seen was someone on Smug/tg/ making an idea for a Shiro Amakusa style Kurishitan force of Japanese catholic samurai exorcists
>>1086806 Sounds like nice shit show. Good thing, I waited for its dev meltdown before looking into it deeper.
>>1086848 >"RACIST!" I don't really get that because the human sacrifice thing was super unpopular with all the other mesoamerican cultures. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. And the ancesteral mesoamerican culture, the Olmecs, didn't even do human sacrifice. It appeared over time in the succesive cultures and by the time of the Aztecs it had gotten completely out of hand.
>>1086806 > is that any mortals who get near the gate, immediately have their flesh melted to the bones, so only the most evil of the evil that hell recognizes can enter with no harm. So the bad type of edge? It makes not sense why would hell care about how much evil someone is to begin with.
>>1086806 A question in regards to what anon said here >>1084350 is it true and if so was that marketing pushed by the devs of Trench Crusade themselves in order to push players into "Woke Crusade" or just burned out W40k fags that wanted to try something new? If it was the devs is there any proof of this?
>>1086806 >Which led to the left wing mods banning a very large number of potential customers that would’ve spent thousands if they weren’t stupid leftists, he thinks the political dudes and the whales are one and the same LMAO
>>1086931 Whales wouldn't leave 40k in the first place.
>>1086958 Good point
>>1086931 If you treat them with respect the right leaning types will be loyal customers.
>>1086982 you are delusional they may be "loyal" on social medias but they won't spend as much as whales do. I see the same idiotic discourses in gacha games
>>1087130 They're still more likely to purchase a product than leftists.
>>1087132 maybe but tabletop companies (and especially GW) are solely kept afloat by whales. Nothing happened after the End Times debacle and nothing happened after the femstodes one because whales are mentally ill and need their next big shiny plastic shit to spend money on. You need to understand real life isn't like twitter where two minorities scream at each other because they base their identity on opposing the other side. My point is that trench crusade can appeal to far left trannies instead of the far right nazi trannies as long as they can also appeal to some whales
>>1087130 >>1087133 Reality shows that if you don't act like cunts to the people who buy your shit they tend to keep buying from you.
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Fucking christ the new havoc in darktide kicks my ass >>1087250 Apple, GW and Nintendo beg to differ
>>1089601 They don't have customers, they have paypigs they feed on nostalgia and beatings.
>>1088904 Space Marine 2 sucked even more than the first one
>>1089745 I liked it.
any /sm2g/ bros out here that survived?
>>1090115 You're gonna have to shill harder than that anon
>>1090115 Too late-late this place has been claimed-conquered by coopg/
>>1090367 That's good to know, Brother.
Any Tau enjoyers here? The greater good?
>>1090476 You can see the greater good at the end of my Bolter xenos.
>>1090115 No Space Scribes, no buy
So many new people.
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>>1092312 I'll be on my best behaviour promise
Sorta-newfaggot here, I've played Spess Mehren and I know who the chaos gods are and what the Horus Heresy was but beyond that I'm ignorant. Is there any essential vidya, books, whatever forms of media you can recommend? Spoiling image due to eyerape.
>>1092632 Alright faggot here's the fucking spoon since 40Gay might as well be dead at this point thanks to GeeDubs. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page
Been reading this thread and interested in 40k writefaggotry. But is the classic Love can Bloom worth reading?
>>1092680 >But is the classic Love can Bloom worth reading? Surprisingly it's well written, and find out for yourself anon. https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Story:Love_Can_Bloom
>>1092713 Reading now.
Newfriends a chart is being made for this board's worthwhile 40k games. It's not done but if you have suggestions feel free to add. The tiers we have are >Emperor Tier For the best >Primarch Tier For second best >Chapter Master Tier Third >Neophyte Tier Fouth >Civilian Tier Fifth >Servitor Tier Sixth >Necron Ancient tier Older titles that aren't must play tier >Heretic Tier Absolute shit.
Finished the new mission for SM2. The new prestige system is cool. Not sure it was a good idea to implement it this late after release. The game does not have the player base to sustain mission on easier difficulties. You end up playing by yourself if you are not playing on the harder difficulties.
>>1092632 Rogue Trader is a recent game and it's rough but it gives a great feel as to what 40k is like with a player character. The Dawn of War series is a classic, you should get Unification mod and play 2. For media, Emperor TTS is kinda old but and it's been stopped due to Geedubs and their copyright BS but it's still fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy4CJ4F-epA&list=PLyiDf91_bTEgnBN0jAvzNbqzrlMGID5WA You have watched Astartes right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVXEYksoE6c And if you want to see how terrifying an Ork hoard can be and how the Imperium tries to defend a city with a 90% casualty rate, watch Helsreach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WGE1L6WKs
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>>1092952 Most 40k games would fit in a "Why the fuck would you waste your time with this" tier (a vast majority of 40k games are literal phone games), and half the remaining games end up being a Space Hulk adaptation. >>1093024 The issue is that they're drip feeding content in a game that was lacking content for ages (one operation/pvp map every two months is dogshit pace with the amount of grinding required to make Bolters feel like chunky diarrhea instead of vomit and diarrhea) and are constantly having server issues. The game itself is fine, it's just they SHOULD HAVE SHIPPED with horde mode and the 3 ops instead of patching them in well after everyone lost interest
>>1093024 SM2 campaign is ass, they made a World War Z reskin and pretended it was a solo campaign.
>>1092952 Excellent start.
>>1093024 Genuinely was disappointed that so many bugs from the PTS made it into release. At least we got them to give Assault the inferno pistol I suppose. Still just sad.
>>1079324 We’re back, brothers?
>>1095816 We've never been more back, battle brother Actually not entirely true. We need to find the leftover 40k fags from /v/ and /tg/ and get them to come here
>Rowboat gets revived >no new warp base power like Lion's forest domain or Corax spooky shadow powers >holy shit fucking jobbed hard and has to rely on power of friendship against Magnus and power of daddy against Morty >Fulgrim is going on a murderrape spree, most likely will do everything to fuck Rowboat again Now what, Lion will bail Rowboat out this time with power of the older brother?
>>1095901 Don’t forget the /vg/ threads
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>>1095901 light the astronomican
Is there a chaotic stupid faction in 40k like the skaven?
>>1097364 the bureaucracy
>>1097364 Closest we got is Orks. They're great, best lads having the best time.
>>1086806 I wasn't aware how bad this was.
>>1086806 The issue with "good guys are just as bad as the literal hell legions" is really just a daft cope that they tried to come up with to save face. From my understanding the entire thing started as more of an concept art project that slowly become a tabletop game, to the point rules aren't even finalized. I refuse to believe that the concept guys envisioned a situation where the Abrahamic factions are as bad as the hell legions. As for the Christians being the cause of the hell gate, I actually like it. Potentially interesting dynamics between Christians and Muslims if you were to write stories in the setting.
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Hello friends another refugee here. Do we have a proper 40k tabletop board or traditional games board over here?
>>1099124 There is a /tg/ but it's been mostly dead. Feel free to hop on it and I'll join you there. I think the BO is still around, I could message him on steam.
>>1099124 honestly, for once I prefer reality.
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OK, this looks cool.
>>1099124 I mean clean her up, get her a bath, condition and moisturise that fur, trim claws etc and reality Felinid would be looking pretty fine.
>>1099124 We have a /tg/ here.
Any r/HorusGalaxy lads here? If so we could try making this site's/tg/ populated by non cancerous users and we wouldn't have to deal with the same shit the Jannys at 4chan pulled.
>>1099124 yes we do. >>>/tg/ Also if you want to link a board its >>> and then the board /tg/.
>>1095901 God I love the Blood Ravens, my favorite boys
>>1101458 >redditors >less cancerous I am very doubtful of that anon.
From /sm2g/
>>1104633 Ammo reserve for tactical doesn't feel mandatory. I Rarely have ammo issues as tactical since you've got the perk to restore ammo on executes. I mean if you prestige you lose it but that's just temporary.
>>1102699 Less cancerous than 4chan was.
>>1086824 >”OK we're done here. Time for the End of Days and Last Judgment." They could have had trench crusade occur during the tribulations with a few humans holding out against the anti-christ for 7 years.
>>1105103 Sorry, but I'm not interested in Wolf Wolfson, squad leader of Canis Lupus riding wolf adorned motorcycles with wolf inspired weapons wearing wolf inspired armor and pelts
>>1105103 Wolves got done dirty. Pretty boring chapter pack all around.
>>1105387 There was really nothing to pull from. They only have their Great Companies, and 3 underdeveloped Successor Chapters that nobody cares about. At the very least, the weapons are pretty cool.
>>1105604 God I hate the bolt carbine so much
>>1095901 reporting in. Nostalgic to be here, I was in the very first gamergate thread back on 4chan and spent a lot of time here, but eventually work made me quit imageboards, and I only shamefury came back to 4chan for the 40k threads.
>>1105688 If you listen to the /vg/ thread for SM2, it's actually the best weapon in the game if you build Tactical in a very specific way and rely entirely on one mechanic to get damage, and if you disagree you're a shitter that can't properly use a Block Powerfist which is the best melee weapon in the game >>1105790 I used 4chan because it's effectively the only site that had an /x/ type board that had traffic
>>1105688 It’s one of the best weapons in the game.
>>1105377 wolfwolfwolfwolfwolf
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Play White Scars.
>>1106710 >>1106692 I'm sorry, I forgot that Space Wolves call squads "Packs" and squad leaders are "alpha wolf"
>>1092952 Need to add Fire Warrior. A true classic and a staple name in the immersive fps genre.
>>1107029 How did Magnus let these fags bully him?
>>1107377 A light breeze could bully Magnus, and it'd be justified
>>1106717 I’m waiting for the DLC.
>>1107377 >>1107394 Magnus had a sudden attack of "stupid because the plot demands it" and disabled all planetary defenses on Prospero prior to the Wolves arriving. Because he was so guilty of ruining Daddy's human webway and wanted to be punished.
Awful heraldry.
Thousand Sons assfucking could have been avoided if he personally went to Terra instead of brute forcing his video call and give the furries to rape their nerd ass.
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>>1107476 on that note, angron's entire existence is due to a shit writing isn't it?
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>>1101510 come 'ere ladz lets get a propa scrap goin' >>1107971 every once in a while I try to think up of a non-asspull reason for the emperor to let every one of angron's men die. I haven't succeeded yet.
>>1104633 Prestige I, level 25 bulwark trying to decide my next perk. Auxiliary Reload doesn't seem that great to me, having another 10 rounds of bullets over just having 20% more damage from my rounds all the time doesn't seem worth it. Does Masterful Defence have a cool down? When walking toward enemies I'm almost always taking at least 5 shots that I block, and if I could farm it intentionally and walk towards them instead of running, that seems like a pretty serious way to pop my banners more often.
>>1108014 >didn't even link board I guess retardation followed me here >>>/tg/318
>>1107971 >>1108014 Same reason he just stole Mortarion's kill on his foster dad instead of just helping him up the mountain Same reason he didn't just take Lorgar aside and calmly explain why he didn't want to be worshipped as a god.
Space Marine 2's kinda shit
>>1109650 I think it's closer to "average third person shooter released in the first third of the 9th console generation", in the same way that the first game was "painfully average third person shooter released in the middle of the 7th console generation" and games in general just got worse over time
>>1107971 There's a lot of that surrounding the traitor primarchs because they were conceived of as traitor daemon princes and their backstory was gradually filled in over the years. Because of that it's hard to come ob with a narritive that makes them traitors without either making them evil all along (and in turn make the Emperor look like a retard for not understanding it) or make slowly be pushed into it (and in turn make the Emperor look like both an idiot and an asshole for not avoiding or fixing it) OR make them just fall because Chaos is just that corrupting and come up with a reason why half didn't fall. At least in that last instance they've kind of explained it by needing powerful direct Chaos corruption to be in close contact for long enough for it to even have a chance to affect a primarch.
>>1101458 you should go back
>>1107476 still laughing over the Lion saying "now I know it's an illusion, Magnus never hit this hard" >>1108014 >every once in a while I try to think up of a non-asspull reason for the emperor to let every one of angron's men die. I haven't succeeded yet. My crackpot theory is that he had a deal with the local lords before finding his son and the deal only encompassed him. He also probably knew of his son condition so he thought his pals weren't worth the effort, on that note I bet he kept angron as a rabbid dog because from the red angel's own admission he would have rebelled against the Emperor
Trench Crusade? Nah. Trench Foot? Yah. It's never coming out, is it
>>1108018 I don’t think there’s a cooldown. You can just hang back and soak up ranged damage, and you’ll have your Banner back up in no time. Pairs pretty great with Armour of Contempt and Armoured Advance.
>>1109650 I like it.
>>1109731 I think Emps purposely antagonize said retards to fall seeing they have certain defects and attitude issues. Heresy was inefficient as fuck that only Perty and Horus kinda carried the whole shitshow the moment others drank the chaos kool aid so hard and amplified their worst.
>>1111981 I think he intended it to happen, but didn’t anticipate half of his remaining Primarchs to turn traitor.
>>1104633 Honestly the design of Space Marine 2 baffles me to no end. It feels like they have such a decent base for a fun horde shooter co-op and then did everything in their power to make it as unremarkable and short lived as possible. Like fucking hell your PRESTIGE perk list is a standard +20% to X damage and already existing perks like the 10 seconds where you don't lose control on heavy hits? You couldn't think of anything more special or unique than that? I love how fighting the nids feels but everything else feels incredibly phoned in. The PvP is boring as fuck, the customization is very underwhelming, the mission variety is super underwhelming and Space Marine 3 could range from even more phoned in reskin to literally having everything and the kitchen sink Dark Crusade tier expansion with loads more playable factions and freeform planetary map to fight over.(95% it's going to be the former)
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>>1112064 I’m just glad they’re going to be adding in melee units in the form of Chaos Spawn in the future, a new Tech Marine Class, and there’s still three more missions left to release, along side Horde Mode.
I'm disappointed because we'll never get Gitz Row.
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Community needs to beat Exfiltration 200000 times just to get this.
>>1112105 I want something like Mount & Blade, but Warhammer or 40k. I know there's mods, but that really isn't the same.
>>1112291 A Mount & Blade like game in Warhammer Fantasy or 40k do sounds fun. Still, isn't GW going full current year with their IPs? Or just being retarded. I'm not even sure if the ork racing game is still in development or if it was dropped.
>>1112291 Chapter Master?
>>1110920 Ditch Jihad
>>1112206 Wish we got more Errant Helmet variants
>>1111981 >>1112002 i admit i'm one of the newfags that SM2 brought into 40, but i read a summary of the heresy and 2bhfam seems like emps kind of just engineered his own downfall, particularly with Magnus and Lorgar
>>1115233 don't forget Angron. Bro could've definitely spared the time to go down and help him and his rebels.
>>1115233 the problem with prequels is that each characters have a pre-determined path meaning it's hard for writers (at least the less competent) to come up with a good story that doesn't make some characters look like idiots: just look at SW with Anakin or the Horus Heresy with magnus
>>1115233 HH is just fan wankery by black library authors. I never considered it canon.
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>>1114417 There will be.
>>1105103 Which Femarch would be best girl?
>>1117133 Russ or Sanguinius easy
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>>1117133 Before or after heresy? Before heresy its femFulgrim. I can totally save her so it's fine.
>>1117133 Sanguinius is described by just being around him as bringing up your most fond memories. Hard to beat that. A shame about the rage boiling under the surface. Fulgrim is canonically the prettiest, but they're canonically more air-headed than say Guilliman who was tempted by Fulgrim to Chaos. Fulgrim is good with technology, though. Guilliman would be too busy.
>>1114417 Forget the helmets when can I get the full Errant or Corvus suit without mods. >>1107584 It's codex accurate. Space Wolves still suck ass. This post was made by Gang Ordo Malleus.
>>1086806 Oh yeah, 28mag. Those guys had a Canadian tranny write a romance story about two gay space marines. The art that accompanied the short story had one of the fag marines looking like Kanye. This came out a couple of years ago. The same Canadian tranny then went to Bolter and Chainsword to cry at their mod team to make a specific rule against transphobia on the forum, he got blown the fuck out by the resident grognards and the mods had to step in and delete everything after also telling the tranny to fuck off. I believe the guy was called Trysana or something, a regular 28mag contributor by the way.
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>>1117570 FemSanguinius would truly be top tier as well, even if I prefer femFulgrim Play blood angels by the way guys.
Some real heresy right now.
Would I enjoy Darktide if I like SM2 but am disappointed with its content and a few of its design choices? >>1118178 can't spell heresy without HER
>>1118197 Darktide stylistically is closer to pre-8th edition 40K and stuff like Inquisitor. If you're really into Inquisitor and Vermintide's gameplay you'll love Darktide.
>>1118212 I've never really played Vermintide. I remember buying it for like 50 cents, playing a couple of matches but it's like MiB neuralized me because I can't remember shit about it besides some guy talking about Kruber and MEIGHFLIES
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>>1117133 I want to protect Lorgar-chan's smile.
>>1117887 I’ll play them when the chapter pack comes out
>>1118197 I've not played SM2, but Darktide does feel like it should have more content. Most of the weapon roster is at the very least viable outside of the Slaaneshi masochist mode, can't say the same for most of the talent trees though, Fatshark is really hit or miss when it comes to class design and balance. It's also really grindy until you unlock everything, then there's no point to your stockpile of useless money; though I hear SM2 has the same problem. There's also major issues with silent specials because the game just fucking muffles everything if it's not both targeting you, outside of a sound muting zone, and you're not doing an objective. It's something even people with 2k+ hours complain about. And every time they retouch the maps, they forget to remove or change these sound muting zones, leading to specific spots in the wide open where you can't hear disablers even when they're about to ruin your day. Even with all its flaws, I can't get enough of its gameplay. Speaking of, does anyone else here play Darktide?
>>1120170 I play though not much since the game is too easy for me, even damnation auric maelstroms, except for havoc missions - except my biggest complaint is I have no consistent people to party up with and grinding havoc missions is a massive pain the ass. If you are in need of a really good melee zealot or an all-rounder ogryn, I am here.
>>1118197 I love darktide, it's not perfect but it has some of the best gameplay for me personally in any game I've played in a long time and I absolutely adore the music. On that matter does anyone know if /copeg/ migrated anywhere?
Glad you guys are being good to this thread.
Anyone here from an /aco/ general? Can I get a mega link with the stories? Asking for a friend.
>>1120651 Fucking image won't load AIEEEEEE
>>1121528 Use .se instead of .moe, that fixed it for me
>>1121719 Wow it worked, amazing ty
>>1120651 Destroy her, Titus.
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>>1117133 Take your pick.
>>1118323 why couldn't we save her?
>>1121992 Because her mom was a cunt.
>>1118323 >Lorgarette completely snapped on right pic I have a great need
>>1121972 I want Alpha-chan
gw has sabotaged 40k to the extent that I can't even get excited about video games for it anymore. the nu lore is capeshit. the nu models look stupid. the nu tabletop rules are some soulless deckbuilding style garbage. why does such a stupid company have to be in charge of such a beloved setting?
>>1122508 I'll level with you I actually really like Primaris Marines, I like the helmets and I like that they're not manlets
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Howdy, do you guys take fantasy refugees as well? Don't think we have any thread for ourselves yet. Here have an OC, a priestess of Myrmidia from Estalia
>>1122508 I remember when 5th edition Necrons were the thing everyone bitched about
>>1123844 even necrons are ruined now. I miss when they were just mysterious killbots in serivce of the ctan who were even more mysterious.
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Yrliet is best girl
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>>1124286 I see /crpg/ came out of the warp.
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Fire Warrior game where you plays as a Gue'vesa when?
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>>1124461 The owlkek-posting will continue until morale improves
>>1124542 I still need to sit the fuck down and replay it again with new girl. I'm terrible about getting back into crpg's after the first go around of runs.
>>1124572 The Void Shadows DLC was great. Best DLC owlcat have put out. Even aside from the new girl it added so much extra material and it was all really well done and integrated. Extra personality for existing bridge crew, new areas of the ship, and new planetary missions. Next DLC is coming out (featuring an zesty male arbites) in the next couple of months apparently so you could consider waiting till then.
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Finally got around to playing SM2 and what a mixed bag. They get so much right and so much wrong. The actual moment to moment gameplay is really good, but the game is held together with tape and a prayer. I have the low res details issue that has fifteen different fixes that don't work and when I beat the game it somehow triggered something and made it way, way worse. This is what the ending cutscenes looked like for me. Then the trygon patch hit and seems to have fixed it, but man.
>>1124797 This is what happened when you forget to turn on your Gellar Fields, brothers.
>>1123933 I'm not against a range refresh in theory, but it's blatant that Primaris are entirely a "Shareholders want number go up, so we're making SM players to rebuy an entire army"
This is so stupid
>>1122702 >I like the helmets They're just Mk.IV armor helmets with some tweaks. And GW have already shown Primaris with Mk.III, Mk.VI, and Mk.VII helmets now that they're ready to squat the Oldmarines but still want to cash in on nostalgia for beakies or the scowling Mk.VII helmets.
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>>1124896 Could be worse, it's a Centurion. I never saw those things even featured in a game. At least Inceptors are in Battlesector.
>>1125093 >hmmm what if we made power armor but even bigger but left the helmet normal sized
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>>1125093 Centurions are cute. Gravis armor is just ugly.
>>1125093 >>1122702 That's cool and all, but I still don't like the lack of variety that comes with the standard primaris box. At least if you have enough old bits or 3D printed parts you can salvage them and make them good. The Intercessor box is probably the worst space marine kit in terms of bits you get in the box. Don't have any of my photos on hand so have this example I found just now on instagram.
>>1107971 Stop thinking too much about the Horus Heresy plotlines.
>>1117490 You can’t save her. You can only save yourself.
Why is darktide so simultaneously fun and also dogshit at the same time?
>>1125093 Both of them are mediocre looking, but at least they're not as dogshit as Nemesis Dreadknights
>>1125716 It's fucking garbage. Glad they dropped the whole premise of it replacing Terminator armour and they brought back big Terminators after 3rd parties like Tortuga started making them. Same with Kill Team bringing back old school scouts. Reivers are trash. >>1126220 I've been waiting for a Castellan Crowe style refresh for the Grey Knights for years and then they reveal the garbage upgrade set for the shitty Dreadknight instead as their Grey Knights codex release. GW is so garbage these days. At least they didn't fuck up the Eldar miniatures yet, they just fucked up a bit of their lore for now.
Where the hell is the next Rogue Trader DLC It was supposed to be out already, I know they announced delay but after that they have just been completely silent about it. This makes me scared that there actually wont be any DLC afterwards and this will be it, there is so much stuff they can throw into the game still. I can only pray that if that happens then at least they make some other new 40k RPG like Only War.
>>1126508 Only War would work better as a tactics game like Xcom with expendable troops and some RPG elements instead of a full on RPG.
>>1126112 The itemization shit is what keeps me away. I guess they reworked the whole forging system at some point but I still don't really understand it. I just want to smash heretics, not crunch numbers.
>>1126580 It genuinely does feel like a massive grind just to get bigger number at times the mortris trials were kinda fun but they were way too easy.
I don't hide any post no matter how retarded it is. I rawdog this entire thread. It makes me stronger. It makes me feel alive.
>>1126552 As RPG its still meant to be one where players are little special. Expendable xcom would be different genre. For Only War RPG I imagine it would be something like starting off as line soldier going into a war listening to commands, get few squad mates, things get fucked up, comissar and rest dead and leadership cant be reached but PC and squad know something important, player takes control of the squad and it flows from there. But maybe dark heresy would be better
>>1126580 I have no interest in the game until they stop forcing the stupid guardsman melee meme and let you bring two different guns.
where is /wfg/?
>>1126802 in the total war thread
>>1126799 EVERYONE MUST MELEE EVEN THE SCRAWNY ASS PSYKER
orks iz best
>>1127654 grotz iz betta
>>1127654 no orkz in darktide, is sad
>>1127943 yeah no shit. you think you can melee an ork. did you take that fuckin primer to heart and actually think you can catch an ork's arm mid swing?
>>1127959 I CAN DO IT SAH, I CAN BEAT AN ORK WITH ME BARE HANDS!
Post more of the nightsider girl and her cute little sister. >>1126300 Why does it look like the grey knight is using a daemon blade?
>>1128001 Because he is, Castellan Crowe's whole schtick is that he is the only human alive capable of containing the mother of all Daemon weapons simply known as the Black Blade. He has to keep hold of it at all times because when put at rest it has a nasty habit of teleporting itself somewhere for someone else to pick up, who will be INSTANTLY corrupted and allow the fuck off powerful daemon prince inside to come out.
>>1126300 the old one was better. I fucking hate the tactical rocks and "special effects" that plague nu models. also the way it looks like everyone's head is floating in a toilet bowl.because the armor is so high above the neck.
>>1128137 It's called a gorget, plenty of old models had it. The guy you're replying to is probably talking about scale, because the old miniatures are dwarfed by the new Chaos and Primaris ones. The re-done Crowe model was the first non-primaris marine in the 32mm scale, he's about the same size as the Chaos marines currently available.
>>1128171 I can't tell who's on top when it comes to Heinrix or Marazhai
>>1120170 I do and can confirm havoc is ballbusting >>1120584 tried to look for them but it seems this thread is all that's left
>>1124797 heh, looks like Sea of Thieves
>>1128554 classes? ranks? preferred difficulty?
>>1128580 I can pretty much play anything even bubble if am forced at gunpoint, I prefer Ogryn because he sounds funny. Rank 27-29 (reached true survivor before but the boss then twin rape me). I usually play maelstrom when not havoc
>>1128594 ah im still only around 15-18 with all my classes, don't have a zealot yet.
>>1128195 no it's mega retarded. world of warcraft has giant shoulders but 40k has hunchback syndrome where the more powerful a character is supposed to be the further down his torso his head migrates.
>>1128685 Wow, you're actually blind. Take a good look at the terminator model you just posted. You might have a point if you posted an old model or the current chaos terminator models.
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now if only FATSHITSHARK WOULD ADD A FUCKING OFFLINE MODE SO I DON'T NEED TO RELY ON THEIR NIGGER RIGGED SERVERS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY
>>1128856 but your inputs are so delicious. Do you use the mods that try to mitigate their shitty servers?
>>1124797 It's a fucking coop game pretending to be a fully fledged singleplayer campaign, that's it's issue.
>>1128952 Did you see that shit where they tried introducing a new community manager like ANYONE GIVES a fuck?
>>1129221 Has announcing community managers been anything more than >Hey here's this vocal scapegoat faggot you can direct all of your hate at, he'll be a a colossal easy to hate faggot so please give him a warm welcome
>>1129252 Yeah probably, i wouldn't take that job without a decent advanced payment
>>1128113 I remember there being a Space Wolf that reforged and purified(?) a Khornate axe but it seems a little crazy for the ultra puritanical Grey Knights to use a daemon weapon, as opposed to just keeping it on him at all times.
Give me interesting 40k lore videos to watch for noobs who only play the games
>>1129026 Yeah, I also want to complain about how they wanted to cram in loads of dialogue so they have you constantly waiting in front of unresponsive doors for everyone to finish their mid-mission banter. The PVE designed mission structure clearly didn't leave them with space for all this dialogue so they just make you wait. It's worse than fucking half life 2.
>>1129511 >DOOR STUCK 40K edition
>>1129511 half life 2 isn't that bad with it, but i get it when you compare it to 1
>>1129511 >brother, you shoot well. How do you do it? >I reduce chatter >good talk
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Is anyone making a Trench Crusade game? Preferably an RTS game like Dawn of war. I don;t care about the drama.
>>1129438 The sword is inert, but it's also indestructible. If I remember right he never uses any of it's warp powers. He's not actually using it, he's keeping its powers sealed.
>>1129853 The SM2 dialogue is generally pretty good.
>>1129445 Just read 1d6chan it's what every lorefagtubers use
>>1128608 Didn't have time before. What is your server? I need to win 6 or 8 havocs for the cosmetics >>1129221 Yeah he tried to act cute. I still miss Hedge: he was a good representative of the company's utter contempt for their players it was fun like "this isn't call of duty" about a system still present in the game files
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>>1128685 The new Terminators and Abaddon look fine.
>>1130413 Besides the "one foot stepping on rock/corpse syndrome" yeah it does look alright.
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>>1130443 I'm mostly talking about the proportions. The tactical rock is almost expected these days, at least some models like Castellan Crowe have both of their feet level on the ground so you can just cut off the rock. Tactical rocks are the worst. GW somehow managed to replace the perfectly good drop pod with a new one that you can't close or fold up that has tactical rocks as one of the build options. The best part about the new terminators is that all their armour plates are separate pieces so you can do whatever you want with if you have access to a 3D printer.
>>1130387 Hedge was the nigger who banned my steam account from playing the game permanently because I made a tranny joke guide in the steam forums. Fuck that Swedish nutcase.
>>1130657 >So I will stand here with my shoulders square and tall, >And when the whistle blows, not falter, >But when the crash comes I will fall. >With so much steam and steel behind it, >I won't slow it down at all.
>>1130657 oh am not complimenting him but I always value people being frank,I remember a screenshot where someone got their game "refunded" against their will by this very charming individual,was it you? Didn't know you could get your steam account banned from playing a game
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Taking refuge edition >Update 7.0 patch notes: https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/191-7-0-patch-notes >March community update: https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/179-march-community-update >New Roadmap: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/529836636819686186 >Where to get the game: https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2 >Lore Stuff: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page >For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu): https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general https://discord.gg/mSRYkhvatt >Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3): Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge. >Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview >/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes: https://rentry.org/dudewallsm2g >/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore: https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks Previously on the Battle-Barge: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/521221467/
I haven't played anything new than that co-op map where you send in a tram-bomb to blow up the ground floor of a hive tower. I can't remember if that was in the base game or if it was added afterwards. Worth going back to to look at the new stuff? The PVP seemed pretty trash, but the co-op seemed aight.
>>1132147 >I haven't played anything new than that co-op map where you send in a tram-bomb to blow up the ground floor of a hive tower. I can't remember if that was in the base game or if it was added afterwards. Ballistic Engine was in the base game, yeah. >Worth going back to to look at the new stuff? It's a good moment to come back I suppose, there's a lot of new things. They added 3 missions since the last time you played - first one on Kadaku where you have to kill a Bio-titan, second takes place during last campaign mission on Demerium and you have to fight Chaos Sorcerer then activate an Obelisk, the third that takes place on Avarax before Ballistic Engine operation- you get to kill Trigon. They also added Datavault which gives you info on various NPCs, places from the game and whatnot. The trick is you have to unlock them. You do that with new currency - Research points, which you earned by completing Ordeals (in game challenges). When you unlock enough of those entries you are rewarded with extra cosmetics (wargear, weapon skin). Something neat to make the game less stale. There's prestige system now too. If you ever played CoD it essentially works the same way, you have 4 prestige levels. Each time you prestige one of 4 levels you pick an extra talent. Only issue is (for some) that it requires you to get 25 levels each time. Your base perks are reset each time, but you keep your weapons' level. Oh and you have additional 10% XP for each prestige level for that particular class. There are cosmetics tied to the system as well - each class gets a unique piece of wargear for maxing out the prestige, you also get a right pauldron each time you enter new level. If you're into some Chapter cosmetics so far they added Raven Guard and Space Wolves plus Champion skins for Salamanders, Dark Angels, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves. There’s bunch of stuff to unlock on that front too. The PvP is still pointless filler, though. A waste of resources imo, which could be otherwise funneled into making more worthy content.
>>1120170 I play both SM2 and Dorktide, both games have a problem with not having enough content. SM for now at least gets new operation every 2-3 months while tide gets maybe 2 maps a year. Its sad because darktide really hits a homerun in gameplay, music and fun department. At least for me in havocs there are sometimes so many specials that audio begins to crap out. Also shitshark should be raped until morale improves.
>>1131915 We are so back, brothers. Hopefully Dude Wall guy finds this place too.
>>1134757 I'm here too, Brother. I've been working on the Wall since before half-chan went down. I've linked the thread on the website in case any Anons had it saved and check it occasionally.
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>>1131915 We do have a /vg/ now for specific game threads, this one is more general.
>>1134811 Thanks for the info, Brother. I'll look it up. I made the thread here when I read /v/ doesn't have such strict rules on game generals. I'll make the thread there, hopefully it won't get axed.
>>1134811 Its a thread for 40k games in general.
>>1130974 >was it you Yes.
>>1131915 In case any /sm2g/ Brothers want to come over (All Brothers are welcome!), here's the thread on /vg/ so that it doesn't flood this one unnecessarily: >>>/vg/1844 (I hope the cross post will work)
>>1134810 Then we’re good as gold. Glad to have you back onboard.
>>1134943 I think the board is /vgg/ not /vg/ but honestly I don't know what's what anymore.
The new co-op mission in SM2 fucking sucks.
>>1134943 It'll be good for a general /40k/ thread being a sister thread to /sm2g/
>>1130413 they still have the toilet bowl thing going on. look at the toy you posted. his head is literally inside a bowl cut out because his armor extends so far above his shoulders.
>>1127959 Just use catachan sword bro
>>1121972 I can fix Curze.
>>1138857 Cruze most likely had ball busting sex with M'Shen before let her kill him.
>>1130387 I play on na usually is it me or are the default cosmetics for the classes so fucking terrible i end up almost shooting noobs every time i play with them because they blend in with the low ranking enemies also there should REALLY be a compendium of the enemies, it would be a nice way to have some lore you could reald.
>>1139243 AND WHY THE FUCK ARE A BUNCH OF THE UNLOCKABLE COSMETICS JUST "ok here's a nigger prison outfit BUT WITH SOME SHITTY BEVELS OR SOMETHING ATTACHED" darktides cosmetic system is genuinely some of the worst i've ever seen.
>>1139297 Better or worse than SM2’s skull nipples?
>>1140521 Haven't seen it, don't think my rig is powerful enough to run SM2 unless it's UBER optimized (i doubt it)
>>1139297 Because they want you to buy the cash shop shit.
>>1142027 Some of the unlockables aren't even that bad, but it's mind boggling how TERRIBLE some of them are.
>>1129221 There was also them announcing a new story character and all the replies asking "is she a vendor... can I buy things from her or upgrade through her? What does she do? is this the new class?" and they really thought people were interested in expanding the narrative or something lol >>1139297 The prisoner theming feels like its something a higher up was really interested in but absolutely no one cares for it and everyone just wants to larp as guardsmen.
>>1129263 Would you consider becoming a nu4chan jannie when it comes back?
>>1142315 I'd take the job if I could actually announce I'm a jannie and openly fuck with users back instead of the absolute bullshit they were doing.
>>1138857 The superior mind would want Curze to make him worse
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>>1142315 Fuck no i don't have the mental fortitude for that, i'm already insane enough as it is from years of browsing that shithole and other things. >>1142148 I wanna be a guardsman as a veteran, and i wanna be a psuedo space marine as an orgryn, is that too much to ask for? >>1142148 the story in the game is the flimsiest shit excuse for anything, i mean it gets the job done but i'm not interested in anything until they give some sort of lore library like i said earlier on all the enemies at the LEAST. also why are half the fucking voice actors female girl bosses its retarded and then there's the fucking body type 1 and 2 shit at character selection it just reeks of incompetency
>>1142779 >there's the fucking body type 1 and 2 shit This needs to be banned by executive order
For me it's daemon engines. This shit looks so cool. Brass Scorpion is amazing too.
>>1142087 Was about to say some penance outfits are good especially psyker and Vet redacted ones. >>1139243 Sad, am EU
Necromunda Hired Gun is a GREAT Doom 2016 clone
>>1143710 It's impressive how ugly that gun is, i've seen better looking guns in fucking gmod.
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>>1079969 >Final Liberation Found a good video on youtube about the development and gameplay. Well, worth watching. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX3meDz11io
BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE
>>1145060 less shit crop
>>1143710 this game seems good but the animations felt off, the music too and the controls were strange
>>1143710 I disagree. Some locations looked nice but that's it. Combat's shit, weapons are shit, weapon limit was awful, and you couldn't play without some sort of a bug for 5 minutes. I can tolerate jankiness, you can hardly play 5 of Rogue Trader either and I am not complaining, but the base has to be fun, and here it wasn't. I don't understand what compelled the devs to see how their combat first person animations look and bug everything out and encourage the player to do them to enemies rather than scrap the damn system. If a leg doesn't work and starts to taint the whole body, you amputate it or die.
>>1112206 Man, Primaris armour has fuck all variety. I'll never forgive GW.
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Dow3 could have been good.
>>1121972 Need dating sim
>>1131915 Utterly insane we haven't got Blood Angels cosmetics. They really did Sallies first? They do 3 of the big 4 and Sallies? Pissing me off a bit, I want to play again.
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>>1146626 They’re on the way, along with 9 Successor Chapters, Death Company Heraldry, and more.
>>1143294 I like the crawly one with lasher tendrils
>>1147120 >>1147166 Crazy, where are these from?
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>>1147166 >Lamenters Better come with an increased chance of pain and suffering for no real reason other than being too pure for the setting.
>>1146626 >>1147215 Leaked from the Player Test Server.
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White Scars got some leaks too.
>>1124753 >when she sees Domins dick
How do battle passes work in space marine 2? Do i miss out on the ones that came before if i buy the game now?
>>1147343 it doesn't have battle passes
>still no iron hands stuff in SM2 they have the most potential to be unique with all the crazy borg stuff you can add.
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Horde Mode, Flamer, and White Scars and Blood Angels Chapters.
>>1147350 So you just get the all the armors if you have the season pass?
>>1147343 There’s no battle pass. You buy the DLC packs, and if it’s a Chapter Pack, you unlock the heraldry and armor pieces by trading in the points you earn from PvE and PvP, and if it’s a Champion Pack, you get the Champion skin and weapon skins right off the bat. Sometimes Chapter and Champion packs come bundled together, and other times not.
>>1147397 basically, you'd still have to grind missions or whatever to buy em and heraldry
>13th Great Company is still missing Nice
>>1145790 if only every decision they made had been different
>>1147414 >>1147430 Got it, thanks lads
>>1147362 Everyone forgets about them.
>>1146626 The real suffering is being a CSM fan
>>1147688 at least the astartes mod fellas are working on their own bionics for them
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>>1147744 Chaos is getting more cosmetics soon
Does anybody still play SM1. That game still looks and plays great and the mod to install whatever cosmetics you want is fun. We should get some games going sometime.
>>1148956 I do, but I only have a copy on my PS3.
>>1149292 I think its worth getting on ps3. its goes on sale quite a bit. I got it for like 5 bux some time back. Game runs silky smooth and actually has a lascannon.
>>1145789 GW never shills older armor and only does is sparingly. Back in the when Mk 7/8 were the current marines the mk6 and beakies were the rare one and now with MK X the mk7/8 is the relic armor
>>1142148 >>1142779 If you play the story or notice by the time you reach level 30 you earn a place in the Retinue of the Inquisitor. The dialogue from the commanders becomes slightly nicer and the cosmetics they do sell are for IG regiments or IG stuff in general since you are basically nearly inquisitorial storm troopers now
>>1150959 I’ll keep an eye out for it.
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>>1151623 Lieutenant Titus thinks he is Chapter Master Kantor.
>>1092952 wheres it go
>>1082420 What's even funnier is how nu fans pretending they aren't act like rape is the be all end all of stuff DEldar and Slaanesh get up to, when it's basically not even entry level anymore and barely even pings on their radars of shit they get up to. Of all the fucked up things those two factions do, and you get hung up on the dealings of lowest level grunts and cultists.
>>1092632 Google "Warhammer 40k 3rd edition download" and click the result that say "preterhuman" in the URL. Then download the 3rd Edition or 4th Edition rulebooks and read the lore section. It will actually take less time than bullshit lore videos, meme TTS garbage made by faggots or idiotic videos by bearded queers. The 20 pages of background in the 3rd edition rulebook are a better and faster primer than anything you'll find anywhere else. Where you go from there is up to you, just pick whatever army you like and download their Codex. Do things yourself, don't let faggots form your worldview for you with gay memes.
>>1143710 this game... the art, the enemy designs, the atmosphere, the levels, the voiceacting are all great. but the gameplay just isn't fun. the inventory system completely ruins the experience imo, what on earth were they thinking. why even allow the player to pick up weapons if he's not allowed to check their stats while on a mission? it's absurd. shame really because i really, really like the atmosphere here but i just don't have fun playing. oh and respawning enemies can go suck a lemon
>>1082420 the people who want to focus on that stuff are creeps
>>1152756 >those SM codexes Goddamn. Space Marines are ugly now but they were even worse back then. Who the fuck willingly picked those deformed monstrosities when you already had good looking Eldar, CSM, Nids, Tau and IG vehicles (the infantry was terrible).
>>1152486 that's kind of a shit take. slaanesh is completely flanderized in the official lore so gw can dodge having to mention sex or rape. you won't hear this cope when it comes to the other chaos gods. no one makes a corn berzerker and says "actually he doesn't do murder that's too mundane for him he's all about committing passive microagressions."
>>1156263 Rape isn’t very marketable to normies.
>>1147539 bro...
>>1092952 Think it would be worthwhile to rank the DoW expansions separately?
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>>1142148 The prisoner and Inquisition theming is necessary to explain how an unsanctioned psyker is allowed to exist without getting a bolt to the head and also why the characters are functioning independently of the Guard or PDF, which would execute the soldiers after their mission if it involved any warp shit rather than extract. As for Girl Bosses, they are fine if done right and make sense. Zola is fine, and she even gets bullied or put in her place by Rannick occasionally. Hadron is great and is really just your standard issue Tech priest. Alice is a nice foil for Melk. The only one that is truly annoying is Masozi because she literally IS that caricature of the strong independent black wymen don't take no shit! All the rest operate fine according to their role, canon and narrative; Masozi is the one that doesn't make sense and would have been executed for insubordination or being a heretek long ago.
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>>1139297 Because paypigs are how the game survives and there is perfectly good cosmetics just for doing basic skill checks or playing the game long enough. I daresay the penance cosmetics are better than 75% of the paypiggy ones. The only real place there is no equivalent to the paypig is in backpacks and weapon skins. But then again they could have gone all in on superior weapon skins for paypigs or god forbid actual weapons and they haven't.
>>1145060 >>1145066 I do miss the DoW Warhammer era.
>>1158473 That's the Imperial Armour era of Warhammer 40,000. Tons of Forgeworld models and units were featured in the Dawn of War games, especially in Dawn of War II. The Plague Marine Champion was based on the old resin Plague Marine upgrade kit. It's funny how the old stuff that's discontinued persists in new games too. The old Sentinel and FW loader Sentinel were in Space Marine 2 for example, because the new Sentinel model sucks.
>>1152486 >>1156263 The thing is Slaanesh isn't even about rape in the conventional sense. The ideal situation isn't raping a tot; It's making the tot like it. And then she goes and fucks her dad, and older brother, and her mom, and all her cousins and her entire pre-K class and so on. And then they all start liking it too and eventually they're all sucking and fucking. And then their flesh all starts becoming semi fluid and they start merging together, all while still sucking and fucking and eventually the entire planet's population of several trillion (along with all the other animal life as well) are all sucking and fucking and their fluid bodies and various ejaculated fluids have flowed into and displaced the oceans and the planet is a constant eternal suck and fuckfest. And they hope to see you at the beach some day!
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>>1156263 >"actually he doesn't do murder that's too mundane for him he's all about committing passive microagressions." DO.NOT.GIVE.THEM.IDEAS. We are mere moments away from them actually doing this.
>>1159077 it's simple what I want from slaanesh: rape naked chicks tentacle dicks what I don't want from slaanesh: lobster claws purple soyjack looking faggots hellraiser shit
>>1159758 Slaanesh is about excess, retard. You're not getting normal or conventionally sexy stuff out of it. The lobster claws were always there, even on the Diaz sculpted daemonettes. The tits you'll be seeing will be on a seeker daemon and your naked daemon chick will have no nose and no hands.
why cant we have unique slaneesh stuff, such as a greedy buisnessmen thats obssesed with money. A whole planet obssesed with profit and greed no matter the costs. So obssesed that they end up destroying the planet and themselves during the process.
>>1159758 Hellraiser shit is intrinsic to Slaanesh.
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>>1160100 corn has tons of conventional violence. nurgle has tons of conventional poop. cheench gets a bunch of birds for some reason but maybe that's part of the scheme. slaanesh is the only chaos god that doesn't follow expectations and it's obvious why. >The lobster claws were always there because the original greater demons were all ripoffs of d&d demons and the one they picked for the keeper of secrets had claws.
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>>1161276 Is this bait? Or just pure mental retardation? Anyway here's your sex, bro. Have fun.
>>1160660 hellraiser is a shitty horror movie and has as much to do with the idea behind slaanesh as jason or freddy kruger. >bbbut they're interdimensional sadists who turned to murder because regular bdsm got boring this is just a stupid excuse to have monsters dressed in spiky gimp suits instead of a hockey mask or whatever. the hellraiser aesthetic is fucking shit and a complete flanderization of the idea of slaanesh.
>>1161656 Sounds like you don’t know what Slaanesh is about, since Hellraiser was a big inspiration for Slaanesh, and even for the Dark Eldar. The extreme S&M to the point where where pain and pleasure become the same thing is a dead ringer for Slaanesh followers, and the Deldar are also otherworldly torturers that come from a nightmare dimension to drag other people back with them to torture, and also are associated with puzzle box traps. You’ve got to read the Clive Barker novel if you haven’t yet too.
>>1162228 this is the cope. chaos is interesting because even though the characters are fantasy the concepts they represent are real. you don't have to look in b movies to find slaanesh, it's right there in the world. dumbing down a concept that's both wide ranging but also easy for people to identify and understand to "the wacky torture god" is completely retarded, and no matter how much you want to cope it clearly wasn't the original intention when you look at old fantasy characters like morathi and sigvald.
>>1164267 newfag alert, morathi wasn't associated with slaanesh until way after slaanesh was associated with hellraiser, and sigvald was only added in 2008, he's probably younger than (you)
>>1165198 Morathi was heavily implied to be associated with Slaanesh since her introduction basically. It was pretty much overt in storm of chaos and then slowly scaled back and outright removed later.
>>1165198 ok explain why they are the only sex related slaanesh characters then and the rest are all soyjacks with lobster claws
>>1161276 >because the original greater demons were all ripoffs of d&d demons and the one they picked for the keeper of secrets had claws The demon you're thinking of looked like this by the time the time the first RT demons were designed. If anything, it's likely that dnd took inspiration from warhammer.
>>1166435 The dnd 1e version looks a bit closer, but idk. I still think the og Keeper of Secrets looks closer to a modern Glabrezu than it does to the 1e version.
>>1129438 >I remember there being a Space Wolf that reforged and purified(?) a Khornate axe <A space wolf That's Logan Grimnar, the chapter master. And it's not uncommon, Calgar got the gauntlets of Ultramar after taking them back from a chaos champion. You just need to purify it and get it sanctified by the Mechanicus. Just like how Yarrick was able to use an Ork power klaw not just as his personal weapon but also his prosthetic arm.
>>1166758 R.I.P. Ol’ Bale Eye.
>>1166758 >>1166837 I thought the Mechanicus simply didn't screw with anything that had a corrupted machine spirit? Like with scrapcode, they can't fix it, they just throw it away or burn it.
>>1166924 They don’t need to follow their own rules.
>>1161656 >a complete flanderization of the idea of slaanesh People say this but 40k slaanesh has always been great as either power armor cenobites or sex, drugs and rock and roll treated like its in a christian cautionary film. I don't think any subtler and more nuanced depiction of them is really any better than guitar bolters. Warhammer is much like this, a lot of discussion about how it's actually really deep and powerful and maybe it's just me, but I like it when a guy with a really big metal hand punches an ork to death. Also Hellraiser's a great film.
>>1120584 >>1128554 Damn, I’m here too guys, should I just make a new general here and start hoping we get some people? I think it’s worth a shot
>>1167253 >subtle and more nuanced depiction >of slaanesh can such a thing even exist? lul
>>1167253 the guitar noise marine was cool but only a single model. the new emperor's children that just came out all have the stupid soyjack guns and weird alien heads. slaanesh should be the most aesthetic faction but somehow they always end up looking even more retarded than the guys with poop coming out of their noses.
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>>1167921 It just isnt scary, when Slaanesh and the EC have the capacity to be the scariest. See the old EC design where they have masively dilated pupils due to the cocktail of drugs they're on at all times to enhance their sensations, and the piercings and facial/body horror going on. THIS is what Slaanesh worship should be, not purple skin and large heads. I blame noise marine guitar memes for warping the perception of Slaanesh worshippers. Noise marines are a cool idea but it should be treated with reverence as the effective tool of chaos that it is. I always wanted to do my own army of EC marines with some kitbashing so that I can make into reality what I imagined them to be like.
>>1167921 I think the justification for the weird color schemes is that they are such jaded sense freaks that subtle aesthetics didn't do anything for them anymore so they end up looking like the sparkledog version of BDSM-goths. The alien heads could maybe be justified by them slowly turning into Laer as punishment for exterminating them/because they got contaminated by Laeran genes because of Pimp Daddy's implants/just because Slaanussy has a certain look that s/he eventually applies to any of her worshipers. The guns do just look stupid though. >>1168221 Yeah GW is too worried that lil Timmy's mom will complain about the Slaaneshi models looking too sexualized, ignoring the fact that in order for little Timmy to be able to afford any of their models that both him AND his mom are going to have to be on their knees in an alley behind the drugstore for 6 days a week to make the kind of cash necessary.
>>1168221 like I've been saying that hellraiser shit is garbage flanderization. that's just a spooky monster that you try to rationalize as being sensation related or something. we already know what people who go down the drain with hard drugs look like in real life. we also know how people who become obsessed with perfecting their image with body modification end up. you can also look at the characters people make in games like corruption of champions to see what slippery slope deviants want to look like if they could change themselves with magic. so no, a slaanesh character shouldn't look like some kind of spider/human hybrid, it should look like a bogged out cross between michael jackson and madonna with plastic bimbo tits and a horse cock.
>>1157917 this artist draws some of the cutest girls I've seen. that vox slag is a certified qt3.14
why did they fuckin kill yarrick offscreen? I just don't understand.
>>1158709 Didn't prevent them from using the shitty floating land raiders and fischer price toy looking dreadnaught though.
>>1171152 Didn't want to make a new model and wanted to use it as an excuse to push their new horsy boy Lord Solar (who isn't named Macharius) and Mrs. Trunchbull Fem Creed. At least Yarrick got a fluff explanation for being taken out of the game, better than was given for Pask.
>>1171174 The old chaos dreads are better than the shitty hellbrutes. I'm kind of disappointed we didn't get an update of the Berzerker or Sonic dreadnaughts for World Eaters or Emperor's children. But who knows, maybe in 2028 we'll get them along with Red Butchers/Phoenix Guard for 40k.
>>1171152 Because current GW is garbage and they can't conceive of people who want to play Warhammer 40,000 games set in the 10,000 years that passed from the end of the Heresy and the end of M41. Gotta keep that garbage story "progressing". I think the recently announced Armageddon campaign is going to be treated like a separate conflict with minimal references to the past three wars that took place on that planet. I think 11th edition will finalize the complete reboot of the setting. For example in the old Blood Angels Codex before 9th and 10th edition you had characters who were canonically dead like Tycho, but they still had a unit entry in the codex. Along with many other characters who didn't even have official models. The reason why current edition is so limited because they also have a retarded policy of not writing rules for things that don't have a model. Limiting what players can do on their own. >>1171234 They should have never been taken out of the game and they should have never gutted FW.


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