Ever notice how video game graphics haven't really changed since the Gamecube?

I'll keep playing stuff at 1080p 144 FPS, raytracing is a meme and Nvidia is just pushing itself into a corner when this A.I trend dies off. And it will die off, sooner than you think. >>1061754 You're not him, but nice try!

>>1061748 > Threat Interactive drama He got the last laugh when CES came and Jenson proved his fucking point with the 5070.

>>1061748 There are no real frames.

>>1061817 Bull fucking shit. Frame gen is a scam. It looks like smeary shit and doubling it will only make it look like smeary-er shit. Companies like Nvidia don't want to admit we've hit graphical bedrock for what we can feasibly do technology-wise for now but have to keep selling GPUs so they invent shitty problems they have to sell the solution to with the result being games looking worse than they did 10 years ago.

>>1061778 >raytracing is a meme Its a nice looking meme when it works. This isn't a good example either. The room has bad lighting and the textures are not correctly categorized.

>>1061748 >and the Threat Interactive drama The what? >>1061817 >>1061819 The funny thing about making games having "pseudo-60 fps" tech is that LucasArts already did that with TFU2 back in 2010. >>1061820 >Its a nice looking meme when it works I think that pretty much sums up the exact problem with a lot of this tech. It's a nice thing to have when it works, and that's the clincher because this tech does not work majority of the time or it does work but at a greater cost than can ever prove to be beneficial.

Having just played Dynasty Warriors and thinking about it and Space Marine 2, I think devs are finally cutting back on realism and getting to a sense of scale for making things awesome again. It's just something I've noticed in those two games in particular but I'm really hoping devs are sort of "plateau-ing' on this misguided push for MUH REALISM and are instead going for "it's good enough, let's make MORE OF IT" in the future.

>>1061748 Why do you keep making threads on this? It's not that an important issue.

>>1061748 Took you fucking long enough to finally make the thread, thought I had to step in. Here are some videos and comparison pictures. The problem is exacerbated by the fact modern games DONT LOOK AS GOOD even with all the magic bullshit TAA/smoothening/noise reduction. Devs are just copypasting Unreal 5's built in settings to make low-effort borderline AI generated textures and say "The Engine will take care of rest", and since you have crunchtime alltime jew executives they have no time left to cook and try make games look better. Instead of generic preset settings Make noise and memes about this issue and this problem will disappear like the "LENS FLARE BLOOM SUPER REAL" era of early 2010s >>1061901 (you)

>>1061917 The worst part is There's no easy way to turn it off on modern engines Along with upscaling being MANDATORY in many cases. TAA (Temporal Anti-Aliasing) basically applies a smooth grease over your entire screen when moving. And modern engines like UE5 has it baked in by default, giving no options to turn it off or switch to SMAA or SSAA or MSAA. Nvidia uses DLAA, an AI infused TAA, for their upscaling, AMD uses their cocktail of TAA in FSR, and intel uses whatever. So its both devs and card manufacturers baking a cheap readymade solution that destroys quality. And even having a powerful card won't help you since it applies shit over 4k as well. If you're actually running on 4k, high "bitrate", with no smoothening, its fine. But the problem is modern engines are producing 4k images, smearing TAA and inbuilt upscaling shit over it, out of the box. So you have dithering, pixeling, shadows that are weirdly low textured, and blurring over everything, even at 4k ultra. AND then they're applying SHARPENING over it. A game from 6-7 years ago has better visual clarity and lower artifacts at 4k than a modern game at 4k. Check pic related, and that's with a lower resolution webp on Crysis 3, far less smoothening over it

>>1061920 >There's no easy way to turn it off on modern engines Then the solution seems simple: stop using those game engines.

>>1061923 And even better solution, stop buying or playing those trash games in the first place. Unless Modders have some kind of fix (and this sounds like it might not be a very easy fix from what I'm reading and seeing in YouTube videos). At the end of the day what the hell has come out in the last year or two that uses any of this technology that's worth playing?

>>1061920 >applies a smooth grease over your entire screen when moving No. It applies a smooth grease over your entire screen all the time, you just notice it more when moving.

>>1061917 Crysis 3 still looks fucking great.

>>1062111 Still a downgrade from 1

>>1061748 >BP Webm Why the fuck does a game with PS2 graphics need modern cope technologies thrown in?

>>1062867 Yep. Ghosting is one of the terrible things with TAA. FSR2, which PS5 uses, is particularly terribly made too which is why PS5 games have so many obvious TAA problems. Other TAA "solutions" are things like dlss which (usually) fair better. I say solutions in quotes because TAA in general is a solution to a problem that didn't need to exist if game companies were just ready to accept their games need to be at a lower resolution for stable frame-rates. Everyone wants their game as pretty and shiny as possible without considering the technology needed to make it happen. In most cases the big tech they want to put in like ray tracing isn't even something most people would notice in the average game.

>>1061748 >Threat Interactive Oh I saw his videos, particularly the optimised photorealism in NFS 2015 one. Really impressed by his dedication to graphical fidelity

>>1063681 He said that Epic underoptimized UE5 on purpose to market Fortnite in one of his videos..

>>1061920 Hold on, I thought this was just a motion blur thing. And also UE is a shit engine. Performance is absolute ass. Western game devs.

>>1064544 This is what happens when uou have no competition Crytek and Unity just killed every chance they got to be successful.

I was playing Way of the Hunter and noticed that the game modeled various insects and natural debris (pollen, plant fragments etc.) in nature with some simulation (not just static or area wide). It was the first time I was genuinely impressed with graphics in general (as opposed to "really good for this hardware" or "really good for this level of studio") in well over a decade. Not having played many modern games, I have to ask: Has any game done this before? It comes off as really neat in large part because it serves an actual gameplay function (prevent player from just instantly spotting moving things that actually matter)

You know, I could make a high-effort bump post... ...or I can rip off some cuckchan edits designed to mock modern graphics.

>>1070172 It's ok, Anon I made the original image Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one on there with photoshop. The proportion of phone posters must be staggering.

>>1061825 >or it does work but at a greater cost than can ever prove to be beneficial. It will obviously be beneficial when the majority of hardware can handle it, which will be the case in 10 years. And it makes developing lighting much easier for the developer. The only issue is that the technology was rabidly advertised as a selling feature 15 years before GPU's could actually push the FPS to justify it.

You have enough VRAM for modern AAAs, right Anon?

>>1070758 Probably not.

>>1070758 >single game using >18 gigabytes of VRAM >18 gigabytes of RAM God in heaven, am I glad I don't buy any games or play anything modern.

>>1071043 >8 years prior

Today's Absolute State of Play provided a bounty in terms of deferred rendering reaching its limit. Tides of Annihilation demonstrates. I love oil paintings as much as the next guy, but c'mon, this ain't it, chief.

Fine, have this placeholder. https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=YBISVcHj1YE

I wasn't aware of all these issues until I played Stalker 2, which apparently has every single modern graphic problem multiplied by 10. I was like "Why is everything smearing whenever I turn around, I turned off motion blur" before realizing the truth. Really sad.

>hate TAA because of blurriness and ghosting >hate no AA because it's distracting and I hate it >FXAA and SMAA do nearly nothing I just want MSAA back so badly. At least Nvidias TAA is somewhat more usable then most games native TAA

the sweet spot for between graphical fidelity, development costs, and development time was late 6th gen/early 7th gen (minus the piss filter).