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The Coffin of Andy and Leyley Thread Anonymous 04/19/2025 (Sat) 12:27:53 Id: 7472ba No. 1146349
Edited last time by Mark on 04/19/2025 (Sat) 12:37:26.
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>>1170724 >There already is time travel present, via the visions
>>1170732 Anon the visions are literal visions of the future, it implies that the demons have at least some control over time itself. Time travel isnt a very big leap to make.
>>1170745 >Ashley living alone. Andrew doesn't have to do anything, then. The retard will be dead within a week. Also, Ashley is literally incapable of functioning without Andrew, which is why she clings onto him. She has no other options, plain and simple. >>1170744 >>1170761 I meant the visions of the future. It's just moving your consciousness forwards in time.
>>1170745 >Burial Ashley would become disillusioned with Andrew for whatever reason and try to actually separate herself from him. I think mirroring and inversion are kino, but I don't personally think it would be very interesting for Andrew to try to stick to or kill Ashley so hard she has to run from him. At that point, everything interesting about their dynamic is out the window and it's just a chase thriller that's not particularly compelling. There's nothing interesting about this game other than interactions between the main characters. >>1170764 >>1170767 Whoah! I watched a YouTube video of 9/11! I was able to stop the terrorists while I was watching it!
>>1170775 >Whoah! I watched 9/11 happening two months before the event! My TV is awesome!
>>1170775 Filter'd ;^)
>>1170694 >This is literally what's in Decay already. It may seem similar, but in nature it's quite different. In decay, Ashley runs from Andrew after she makes him seethe and loose his mind, and that's the nature of their conflict; he's had enough of her bullshit, and we see most of this through Andrew's POV. What I think will happen in Burial is the "Ashleyzation" of Andrew, meaning he'll lose all boundaries, and without necessarily being hostile to her as he is in Decay, he'll still creep her out since he'll become completely unhinged and unpredictable. And of course this will be seen through Ashley's POV
>visions of the future <control over time itself lmao Though, I could see a retard like Ashley thinking like this, actually.
>>1170764 Clairvoyance is NOT time travel and has nothing to do with it
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>>1170791 >Andrew if I eat just 13 more people I'll be able to time travel! Why are you stopping me!?
>>1170789 I'm not saying it won't happen, but there is zero indication of it. Nor are there any structural reasons for the narrative to go there. It would also throw out the only interesting thing about the story since Ashley isn't complex enough to carry the plot on her own. Burial could remedy that, but it may end up feeling shoehorned as a result, if it's only in service to setting up what you described. Your jenga tower is too unstable and requires too many changes to established dynamics, I deem it unreasonable.
>>1170799 Its time travel adjacent. Again, not a very big leap in logic to think that the demons may have a way to make time travel possible to some extent. Could be as simple as sending a single THOUGHT back in time to sway a decision made in the past.
>They can suck souls out. >They can show you the future. >They can conjure physical objects out of thin air. >They have telepathy. >They have telekinesis. >They can read thoughts. >They can teleport physical objects and people. >But time travelling in any way, shape or form is too far!
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>>1170807 she should eat 13 more people so she stops having small ass and thin legs
>>1169973 You say Andrew doesn't want to fuck Ashley because she is his sister, but the only reason Andrew could fall in love with Ashley is because they are siblings. If they were not related Ashley would also be like all the other people he knows and not be able to understand him. Least of all because Andrew wouldn't let anyone else get so close to him even in the absence of Ashley. His emotions for Ashley developed and can only develop in the circumstance when they are both as intimately connected as they are from birth. Since incestuous circumstances are the only ones where he can develop genuine feelings, he must be incestuous as a default and his denials of interest in incest are simply another one of his copes.
>>1170835 We have absolutely no idea how Andrew would have ended up without Ashley around, so the speculation is moot. She's been chained onto him since early childhood, so is inextricably linked to his development. What can be said for certain is that none of her influence was positive.
>>1170818 >>1170819 Ah yes, the story where the consequences of your actions are a key theme will throw the baby out with the bathwater because "visions" are similar enough to "travel" that it could happen. >>1170835 Nah. There's nothing about them being actual siblings that changes their dynamic. It'd be the same if the only thing we changed was them sharing the same parents. The reason Ashley sees through him is because she's screwed up mentally and doesn't do the reasoning necessary to buy into his masking like everyone else does, she's perceptive like an animal. Andrew's bullshit only works on people. TL;DR (let me ftfy[fuck that, fuck you] so it's clearer) >the only reason Andrew could fall in love with Ashley is because they are siblings <the only reason Andrew could fall in love with Ashley is because they've only ever been around each other since childhood and had no one else to confide in
>>1170891 There's nothing wrong with an ending involving time travel in a story that has multiple different endings, especially if its well written. Simple as.
>>1170908 Didn't say that. However, the ability to delete the consequence of actions that created many of the problems the story centers around is bad writing, which is my point.
>>1170813 >but there is zero indication of it There are some indications for it, replay the ending of the Burial route in episode two if you don't believe me. You may tell me they are small indications, and that may be true, but then I'd tell you that there were even smaller indications that Decay would be so incest heavy, and yet here we are. At the end, we're all only speculating and we can't predict what Nemlei will do >your jenga tower is too unstable and requires too many changes to established dynamics You see, I think the only variance in the endings will be just that: changes to established dynamics. I don't think there will any time travels or any plot bending shenanigans, in fact I'll assume most "proper" routes will end with them together, but with different character dynamics.
>>1170924 Which is why I think the price for that will be something significant - either Andrew will have to kill Ashley instead of Nina as a sacrifice, or LU will remove HER feelings towards him, whilst leaving his intact.
>>1170951 I also wish at least one of the sub-routes/endings have someone from the other side of the cosmic scale make an appearance - an angel, saint, or some other messenger from God. Especially since LU is obviously Lucifer.
>>1170951 Andrew doesn't care nearly enough for Nina for this to be a plot point at all
>>1170927 Sure, but an inversion of their dynamics doesn't strike me as having enough value for the plot to go there. It'd be wasted screentime, imo. >even smaller indications that Decay would be so incest heavy Since before Episode 2 came out, I've been telling everyone that Andrew must have been peeping and perving on Ashley if they grew up in that tiny room. Ain't no way some wires don't get crossed if you're going through puberty in that little cage with a woman who's doing the same. >>1170951 It not being free doesn't make it well-written. >LU will remove HER feelings towards him, whilst leaving his intact This could work, however. It'd be interesting to see how Andrew copes in a world where she finds his need for psychological comfort creepy, clingy, and obsessive. At least in a world where he isn't sour on her like in Decay.
>>1170982 I don't mean he'll do it for Nina's sake, but that Ashley's death will be the price for LU rewinding time.
>>1170891 Andrew has some sort of ASPD, he has never managed to connect to anyone in his life other than Ashley, no matter how good someone is to him he never cares. If they met in the circumstance where they were not related Andrew would have avoided Ashley like most people in Ashley's life. The only reason Andrew was develop genuine love for Ashley was because he was basically forced to raise her from childhood, this let Ashley understand Andrew and allowed Andrew to come to love and appreciate at least parts of Ashley. Without their childhood the two wouldn't have even become friends as Andrew would still have been the popular kid while Ashley would be the weirdo everyone bullied or avoided.
>>1170978 >I also wish at least one of the sub-routes/endings have someone from the other side of the cosmic scale make an appearance - an angel, saint, or some other messenger from God. Just when I started thinking you're not a complete idiot, you go and say something like this... Do you not realize that the demon stuff is the least interesting part of the story? Followed closely by the organ harvesting stuff.
>>1171003 >The only reason Andrew was develop genuine love for Ashley was because he was basically forced to raise her from childhood, this let Ashley understand Andrew and allowed Andrew to come to love and appreciate at least parts of Ashley. 100% agree, though none of that requires that she be his biological sister, it just makes it much easier to set up without explaining and more kino
>>1171004 The "demon stuff" is the pillar of the story.
>>1171068 No that would be...the protagonists and their relationship Demon stuff is just a vessel to develop the story with, introduce conflicts etc
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>>1171068 The pillar of the story is Andrew and Ashley's relationship. Everything else is just there to provide context or a justification for it's development.
>>1171068 Please tell me you're a girl, that'd be cute as fuck.
>>1171111 Decay really ran the gamut on that pic
>>1171148 It was kinda dumb from the start since we know Andrew is the one who wanted to share a bed, but whatever, still funny.
>>1171148 It amuses me that S&S is, kind of, a combination of fig 1 and fig 9.
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>>1171175 It's just a fun edit of this so it's not trying to be 100% character accurate


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