>>1125807 there's no shortcut. I spent like a week memorizing hiragana and got like 98% accuracy (the miss were misclick) yet it took me months until I can actually read hiragana stuff without stuttering or secondguessing.

tbqh if you just want to play vidya and consume media, just start doing that and don't worry too much about whether you learned grammar 'the right way' also most day to day spoken japanese is incredibly simple. you could fully get by in japan with pretty much a genki 1 level of understanding. most of this other shit only matters if you're really trying to grind for native fluency in conversational japanese, which if that's the case then your real goal should be finding a way to spend as much time in japan or speaking to japanese people as possible.

>>1118564 if you lock yourself in a room for 3 years and do everything right you will end up mediocre at listening and reading and not able to speak at all

>>1127244 I have to agree with this as someone who's spent 4 years learning Japanese (basically just doing anki and consuming content) and cannot output at all. To be fair, I'm not the smartest person, so I believe a lot of people can just figure it out, but not everyone's brain works that efficiently. I have about 20-25k learned words in Anki, I can read almost anything without an issue and I get 150+ on any N1 mock test out there, yet if you ask me to talk a bit in Japanese, I stutter and can barely introduce myself. It is honestly horrible and I have no idea how to fix it, because I do have the knowledge and my brain can decipher it, but it is unable to copy it and construct sentences by itself. I might be able to read 燕雀鴻鵠 but it's pointless if someone who's barely N3 can out output me.

>>1127244 I learned to speak english by immersion only so it should work for japanese also.

>>1090504 probably a scam just like anki

>>1117508 a lot of people trying to sell courses, books, ect. and a lot of dekinais spending more time theory crafting how to more efficiently learn the language than just fucking doing anything >by doing X i will shave off 5 minutes over the next 2 years, this was worth spending my entire day on instead of just immersing.

What's a good let's play channel to listen to?

>>1131425 I like キヨ. Tons of content over the years, very popular, but high energy which might sometimes even be off putting.

>>1131425 https://www.youtube.com/@karasumaA/videos funny and entertaining, his main content is more like a game review than a let's play. the only downside being he uses tts outside of streaming.

from what I gather, ～を限りに and ～限りで are used to express that something will change after the time period/deadline/amount of times mentioned. e.g. >セールは今週限りです <the sale ends after this week (i.e. the sale's only for this week) >当店は今月３１日限りで閉店致します。 <Our store will permanently close on the 31st of this month. the translation for the following example says 'only for that date/period' >2000年3月10日、東海道・山陽新幹線の食堂車がこの日限りで廃止された。 <On March 10, 2000, the dining car of the Tokaidō-Sanyō Shinkansen was discontinued on that day only. is this correct or a mistranslation? going by the previous examples it should be 'the dining car was shut down that day' the provided chink translation agrees too >2000年3月10日，东海道山阳新干线的餐车在那天停止运营 <(deepl) On March 10, 2000, the Tokaido Sanyo Shinkansen's dining car stopped operating on that day.

>>1128646 >I have no idea how to fix it You get better at writing by writing more. You get better at speaking by talking to people. Either find native conversation practice partners (check your local japanese embassy) or talk with chatgpt. >>1084745 Late, but I heard good things about this website https://mezhdunami.org/

>>1141278 >talk with chatgpt. I have no experience with it, but isn't the stuff it chock-full of mistakes?

>>1141856 If they're about as good as english ones, they'll spout grammatically correct bullshit at you but that should be good enough I suppose.

>>1128646 >if you ask me to talk a bit in Japanese, I stutter and can barely introduce myself. It is honestly horrible and I have no idea how to fix it Lately I've been playing video games and just talking to myself about what's happening in Japanese. Like if I was a Twitch streamer minus the actual streaming. I've been doing it for a month now. At first it was really awkward and I felt stupid the whole time, but now I really enjoy it and I look forward to it. I'm already way better at speaking in Japanese than I was. It's also made my other Japanese learning more fun and effective because I'll see a word I like and I'll go "Oh, I need to remember that so I can say it!" I've beaten four games and become much more fluent. I've gone from sounding like a stuttering gaijin to sounding like a really sleepy, slow-talking gaijin. I definitely recommend giving a shot. I've found slow, simple games without much dialogue, like NES RPGs, work really well. With fast-paced stuff like a racing game or something like Puyo Puyo it's hard to focus on both talking and the game. But with something too basic like Pong there isn't much to discuss, so something with a story and characters is better.

>>1139552 To the extent of my experience, it's correct. This is how I think about these sentences: >セールは今週限りです <the sale is limited to this week >当店は今月３１日限り >で >閉店致します。 <Our store is limited to the 31st of this month <so <it's permanently closing >2000年3月10日、東海道・山陽新幹線の食堂車がこの日限りで廃止された。 <On March 10, 2000, the dining car of the Tokaidō-Sanyō Shinkansen was discontinued for a period of time limited to just that day.

>>1127244 Actually the speaking part is true, okay, how about lock yourself in a room with an airgapped laptop and two terabytes of loli VNs, LNs, retro RPGs, and anime, using Yomichan and mining to Anki, and connect to the internet few times a week to chat with tutors on italki.

>>1139552 Pretty sure it's a mistranslation. Also 廃止 isn't a word you would use for something meant to be temporary.

Have you played this recently released hot Japanese indie game yet?

>>1142757 seems like you're mixing up を限りに/限りで(marks a pivotal point/deadline) with に限り(only for/limited to) >本日に限り全品20%引きです <Only for today, 20% off all products >この要綱は、令和5年3月31日を限りにその効力を失う。 <These guidelines will stop being effective as of March 3, 2023 (i.e. 3/31 something changes)

>>1142621 I do this with VN's / Dating sims when my character isn't voiced

Is reading/listening speed purely a function of time spent using the language or is there something else you have to do in order for it to "click"? I feel as if my reading speed is definitely better than it was let's say a year ago, but when I think of how I look over blocks of English text and it all just enters pretty much instantly, which doesn't seem to be different for Japanese if you git gud, I wonder how I could possibly get there. For listening which I struggle more with I've been trying to focus more on the sound of the words without having my brain try to understand them but this conversely leads to... not understanding the content. Also how does /日学ス/ view speaking? I've read learning to output early on gets you bad habits and I don't really intend to speak, at the same time I noticed if I try to think Japanese to myself I notice it's pretty slow and I wonder if it really might not help your overall learning along. All the other languages I've learned (albeit in different contexts and extents) had me speaking early on and it's not as if my Japanese will ever be perfect.

>>1144529 Not just time, but time multiplied by the quality of your practice. I'm at a level where I can tell I might plateau on JRPG baby garbage, because it's repetitive, limited vocab stuff. This I can skim through fairly easily now, but it's also easy to find harder stuff. >For listening which I struggle more with Same. I think the trick will be more transcription practice. I can gloss through basic audio, but trying to put the exact spoken words into text is much more challenging. >Also how does /日学ス/ view speaking? I think the only reasonable answer is to have a partner for language exchange. It's not really practice when you have no idea if what you're producing is correct.

I'm currently playing this game

Question, where will /jp/ make its new home? or rather, can we find a more general /jp/ related board anywhere? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-0lSiV-H7k unrelated, but did love live had revival of sorts? shit is popping up everywhere

Play pokemon and read yotsuba

>>1141856 As >>1142589 said, it's just a bullshit generator, but this is one of the rare usecases where this doesn't really matter since you just need something to keep the dialogue going. I use it for french primarily, and so far it's pretty convenient. You can even ask it to correct you, just keep in mind that it doesn't actually know what it's talking about, so its reasoning/answers can be wrong.

>>1148109 >see kanasoup game >feel irresistible urge to trace the moonrunes (状態／普通, 後) is this what they call autism?

>>1151267 Nah you just motivated. Keep it up. You missed keikenchi though

>>1151267 That's just academic curiosity, one of the traits that separates mediocrity from excellence. If you find the exercise useful, keep doing it.

>>1148109 What pokemon game would you recommend?

>>1156931 Something 4th or 5th gen.

>>1156931 Do you want to learn some kanji with furigana? Play Pokemon Colosseum & XD for Gamecube & Pokemon Battle Revolution for Wii.

>>1157900 >uses furigana >still writes shit like あそび方

>>1157900 How hard are the Yakuza games? Want to get into them, seems like a good opportunity

>>1159986 Only played zero, it's definitely more difficult than Pokemon but wasn't particularly bad if you're not a beginner. If I remember correctly, you can pause it anytime, so you can look up words you don't know easily.