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Why does the Christian church feel like it's own worst enemy? Anonymous 03/17/2021 (Wed) 03:30:38 Id: 5ca66b No. 8366
>We're going to be talking about "extreme thinking" in the Bible that will make people uncomfortable. <And, the conclusion is that you should let fate God decide everything in your life, don't make any of your own decisions, and everything will turn out fine (Even when it's not). >"Real" fellowship is more than just about singing silly songs. <And, we're going to prove this by spending hours on end singing silly songs. >We need to stop pandering to those who are just looking for a church that tells them what they want to hear. <Now take my word for everything I say as I read out-of-context highlights from the Bible. It feels like everything the church says and teaches pushes me away from it, and (Ironically) the only people who end up "supporting" my faith are pagans, atheists, and agnostics.
>>8704 You don't follow jew morality, jews have a master morality that serves them. You follow a slave morality that benefits jews as evidenced by the entire fucking existence and history of your faith. You aren't a kike, you're a kike-enabler.
>>8623 >where Mudslimes ruled half of Europe Which is interesting considering they did not reach any further than the Mediterrannean. So any action taken up north is irrelevant when it comes to muslim activity. >for the Renaissance to occur blame everything that happened as a result "Christian ignorance"? The Dark Ages were a Renaissance meme created by the Church itself. It was a meme that was simply coopted by atheists after Christians taught it to them. The ages were "dark" because there were fuck-all texts written in Latin or Latin script, making it a giant void in the perception of the Church in terms of history. That the Dark Ages were a result of Christian ignorance is very much true, just that it is a lot different from what fedora-tippers think it was. And even today you see Christians continue this retarded meme, with them claiming that nobody knew how to read in the Dark Ages because "well, only the church taught people to read and write, the peasantry didnt know how to" without a single shred of irony. So I shed no tears over the Church having its own memes backfire on it.
>>8500 No one cares if you think it is or isn't. It's already in your gay book and every faggot denomination. No one gives a fuck what you think, jackass. Everyone already knows Paganism is the real religion of Whites. You lost. It's over.
>>8366 The main issue with Christianity is that Christianity like the other Abrahamic faiths (Judaism and Islam) is self-contradicting and discourages critical thinking and denial of your true self anyway. The three Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) has and always will be the religions of power hungry jackasses that seek to destroy anything and anyone that doesn't conform to it. In Judaism, if you believe in the stories of the Old Testament (The Tanakh) to be true; Yahweh commanded the Isrealites to commit genocide, take the young virgin women and girls for themselves and force them to be married to you, and stone anyone who dares question the Jewish faith to death and similar practices are found in Christianity and Islam anyway. In Christianity, to its credit the most positive character of the whole Bible is Jesus of Nazareth where he preached that people can be redeemed, don't be a judgemental jackass, and helping those in need which are values that I'm sure anyone can accept are good things. However, the rest of the New Testament is filled with things where authors such 'Paul the Apostle' twist the words of Jesus to justify certain things such as being judgemental to the sinners and even agreeing with some Old Testament values such as sentencing your kids to death if they don't obey you. The Christian doctrine preaches that God loves everyone and yet God is perfectly okay with these types of things by the way. Finally there is Islam and what's there to say about it? If you know the stupid story, one day this old guy named 'Muhammad' develops schizophrenia and claims that he saw the Angel Gabriel talking to him that Allah (God) wants him to spread the word of Allah. So Muhammad and his friends go on the world's first Jihad where just like the Israelites and the Christians before them, they basically commit genocide and destroy the pagan cultures around them that didn't wanted to conform to the cult of Allah. Also, Muhammad married a six year old and has sex with her when she became nine years old and Allah is perfectly okay with this then. There's also how Muhammad preached violence and harm to others that didn't want to convert to Islam despite it being the "Religion of Peace" anyway. The Abrahamic faiths are pure bullshit at this point anyway. You're honestly far better off becoming a pagan, a Buddhist, or atheist/agnostic at this point then.
>>8642 >The years aren't even numbered after the birth of Jesus who was born 4 to 7 years before himself They *are* numbered after Jesus' birth. It's just that the monk who came up with the AD thing lived around 500 and made a few miscalculations. Look up Dionysius Exiguus for the details. >but some roman festival. No, that's the Solstice/Christmas thing. That's from the early 4th century, when they thought that it would be really neat to celebrate Jesus' birth (something that the earlier Christians didn't even care about all that much) on the winter solstice.
>>9003 >the rest of the New Testament is filled with things where authors such 'Paul the Apostle' twist the words of Jesus to justify certain things Interesting theory: what if the Bible was not meant to be literal, but a satirical cautionary tale of how the Word of God can be twisted by charlatans to manipulate the masses?
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>>8366 >Why does being a cuck feels like being your own worst enemy?
>>8366 Because they are either fanatical assholes, TV level faggots, or the catholic church. >>8370 yeah because almost everyone on southamerica werent catholic at certain point all the while we pushed all the genes we could find in the main pool even jew, goyin, yellow and whatever westerm australians are.
>>9009 fucking this the bible is like a skitzo babble with a few truths hidden in tons of shit its obvious to a child that the bible is false and kiked its a big joke god would take a big fat wack tabular shit on the fucking bible
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>>9009 Not really meant as a parody, just that he has twisted the words for his own cause. Such as trying to add teachers of the faith that are superior to their bretheren when in reality people are meant to be brothers, meaning not to have a figure holier than them that has special powers exclusively devoted to those holy men. Effectively a conflict regarding hierarchy and decentralisation.
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>>8366 >Why does the Christian church feel like it's own worst enemy? Because most have been infiltrated by cia's operation mockingbird dumbass. It isn't just for media, it also specifically targeted churches.
>>10919 >CIA Well, among other things
>>8656 >Then, why did Babylon, later Persia, then Macedon, followed by Rome all seem so dependent upon forcing the world to be come "one society"? Even Ancient China, the farthest you could get from Abrahamic religion and thinking because of the mountains dividing the Middle East from the rest of Asia, was determined to unite the entire continent. obviously we need /hist or /history. where is it.........
>>8635 >Faith is about faithfully pursuing the goals of your master and denying yourself while trusting in Him to provide, that's why it's called faith and not just belief. >Faith is about faithfully >Faith is about faith You're using the word to define itself. You also then use several variations of the same word, like trust. You believe it without evidence. Faithfully is just doing something while believing without evidence.
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Christianity is inherently philosemitic, both in theory and practice. If anyone disagrees, please think on this question: why were Jews literally the only religious minority suffered to exist in Christendom? Pagans of all stripes, over thousands of years and across virtually every corner of the globe, were forcibly converted or killed with great zeal. Often at great expense, as in the Northern Crusades. Muslims were forcibly converted or killed as well. Even dissident Christians (Cathars, Arians, etc.) were exterminated either in belief and/or body or at the very least ended up at war with other Christian institutions as happened in the various Wars of Religion in Europe. And yet the Jews remain. Why? It's simple: Jews are a protected class because the foundation of Christianity is Judaism. Sure, the Jews were expelled and there were pogroms and the like in Christendom but the fact that they even exist at all is all the proof needed. The greatest persecutions of Jews in either myth or history were 'ALL at the hands of pagan or secular organizations. The Romans, who killed millions of Jews and scattered them to the winds for almost nineteen hundred years were pagans. The Egyptians, who held the Jews in captivity, were pagans. The Babylonians, who also conquered and enslaved the Jews, were pagans. The various other groups that the Jews warred with in the Levant were all pagans. The NSDAP, who inflicted the greatest injury on world Jewry since the Romans, were secular at most. Nowhere in these actual persecutions are Christians found, except when sheltering Jews - as they did in Germany in the 1930s and 40s. Jews have a great fear of a western shift away from the Abrahamic weltanschauung because it forms their safety net. They would even prefer Islam, as Islam (as a fellow Abrahamic faith) suffers them to exist so long as they pay their tax for doing so. Ditch the Christian weltanschauung, free your mind from the semitic shackles that bind it.
>>8370 If Christianity is white genetically then how come the first Christians where jews than Arabs then meds then northern Europeans? If Christianity truly was the Aryan spirt it would have to be completely created by Aryan people from the ground up which is not the case. >>8468 I think its the other way around. Religion is good for the low iq who can't determine what is good or bad through logic. >>8487 >all men are created equal >all christians are your brothers or sisters in christ >all people are created equal >all workers are united in communism
>>24326 There's plenty of ways to poke at christianity but your first point there is garbage. There were far FAR more places with white ancestry from the protoindoeuropean days through all those places. Or you are really going to tell me the people who live in pic related and used to break walls and statues to "get treasure" are the same people who made it ages ago?
>>24332 So was Jesus not a jew? Fair skin does not mean western European. Are all brown people in the world the same because they are dark skinned? of course not. Even if you want to assume they are basically western European that doesn't mean they made up the majority of the middle east. I think ancient middle eastern people did make that. Didn't the Christians start busting pagan statues? Yes. Middle eastern civilization is on par with china and has only recently completely collapsed due to foreign meddling by cia niggers. The middle east was still going as strong as china 100 years ago and china wasn't white either. Carving stone is a lot easier than building industrial machinery.
They're desperate for attendance from younger generations so they're getting soft on their morals, even accepting gays openly It's pretty sad
>>8482 >It's almost like Christianity is and always has been a pozzed universalist commie religion and the only thing that made it remotely successful was white people ignoring huge swaths of the doctrine to turn it into a functional base for society or something. >It's almost like all of the supposed "successes" of Christianity are actually the successes of white men, who succeed as a group regardless of their faith when not being subjected to hyperglobohomo bullshit. It's almost like you're a fucking retard for believing in a Jewish heresy. hurr durr you sound like the mainstream liberal media making everything about race, you are as badd as Phareesaic Jews who only care about bloodline and are super racial supremacists. While I do believe races should not racemix as a rule, believing that your race is somehow more important than belief in Christ is absurd.
When you say the "Church", you're not being correct. Heresies and heterodox might claim Christ, and perhaps they're sincere, but they're misguided. The Body of Christ cannot be divided. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. If you pit a bunch of misguided people against each other, then of course you're going to find errors. I myself struggled with the same issue you did, until I found the Eastern Orthodox Church. It was very sobering to have a priest love me, but also reprimand me. To deny me at steps. To truly make requirements. It was here I realized the misguided nature of "Faith Alone" Protestantism. How can you have faith if you do not act on that faith? If the Holy Spirit does not guide you? I'll pray for you anon. I would highly recommend you stop into an Orthodox Church. Humble yourself as a child and simply watch and learn. It could be a little daunting for a Sunday Service (the Divine Liturgy), but the Orthodox regularly has services throughout the week. Saturday Vespers is always a good starting point. Fewer people, there is likely time to talk with a priest or deacon afterward, and it let's you get a toe in.
>>8366 because they are planning for a reality post the current one so none of their actions have any real benefit to their current self, at best that ideology is neutral and at worst it's self destructive
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>>24450 >making everything about race
>>24681 >because they are planning for a reality post the current one so none of their actions have any real benefit to their current self, at best that ideology is neutral and at worst it's self destructive Christianity is a fundamentally anti-life because they believe that our time in this world is immeasurably brief compared to eternity to follow; why should anyone care about this world more than they have to when its purpose is basically to serve as an audition to the afterlife? In fact, that's even dangerous as far as they're concerned because getting caught up in transient affairs can jeopardize your entry to the afterlife. But that's just the theology. It becomes, much, much more destructive when its adherents decide that ACHKSHUALLY the best way to earn brownie points in life is to make sure that others also worship YHWH.
>>27182 >why should anyone care about this world more than they have to when its purpose is basically to serve as an audition to the afterlife I feel like this statement answered it's own question. If life is an "audition" for the afterlife, then you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife. And while people like to strawman that all you need to do is "have faith" in Christ, they forget the second part of that phrase being to love your neighbor as you do yourself, on top of ignore many of Christ's teachings like the parable of the talents.
>>8366 Christianity is a slave religion since it conception. >you are a sinful piece of shit while alive from birth but will find redemption after obeying your master and following the commands Europe was fucked until the age of enlightenment when Christianity was pushed back. If God loves Christians why did he let Muslims occupy Christian lands and enslave Christian people for centuries? But according your flag you were indoctrinated from childhood. Just one hint: The reason Protestant split from Catholics is the huge wealth Catholics amassed. Same as muttland megachurches with pastors with private jets.
>>27373 >Europe was fucked until the age of enlightenment when Christianity was pushed back. You mean when Islam was finally pushed back, and people could finally begin re-assessing the knowledge that was only preserved during the times of war because of the church? >If God loves Christians why did he let Muslims occupy Christian lands and enslave Christian people for centuries? You could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity. Such as manty of the Grecian gods, who actually were divine and loved humanity before Ovid rewrote many of the myths.
>>27405 >ou could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity My point as >>27405 >the knowledge that was only preserved during the times of war because of the church? Lmao Renaissance happen only because the Church burned all Roman and Greek books and the fall of Constantinople made a reassurance of classical teaching. >You could ask the same of every other religion that has a God who loves humanity My point is that religion is just a human cope with their shitty condition. There is a reason why 1st world countries with high standards in living are far less religious than 3rd world countries. And yes I imply that USA is 3rd world tier in standards in living since your government dissolved the ministry of education and now aims for universities. Yeah every successful government focused on the center teachings.
>>27421 Your commie godless shitholes are poor and do not value demographics or democracy. Get fucked retard. First world evidently means scat sex is normalized as vanilla sex in your book.
>>24681 >>27346 >I feel like this statement answered it's own question. If life is an "audition" for the afterlife, then you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife. And your objection was covered by "immeasurably brief compared to eternity to follow". If you have a view of the world which roots your post-mortem future in your mortal legacy as opposed to your immortal future then life and posterity is what matters as opposed to earning enough good boy points to get into heaven with everything else being secondary.
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>>27421 >Renaissance happen only because the Church burned all Roman and Greek books [Citation fucking needed] >My point is that religion is just a human cope with their shitty condition What about vices like sex, drugs, and alchohol? >There is a reason why 1st world countries with high standards in living are far less religious than 3rd world countries No, they're equally religious, considering how the entire POINT of the United Nations, a project created by first-world nations, exists solely for th epurpose of creating a global religion. >And yes I imply that USA is 3rd world tier in standards in living since your government dissolved the ministry of education and now aims for universities. What? >>27452 >as opposed to earning enough good boy points to get into heaven All you "need" to get into heaven is having, as Christ put it, a "faith the size of a mustard seed." You're mixing up Christianity with Hinduism, where the goal of that religion IS to earn enough literal karma points for the purposes of becoming one with God.
>>27474 >All you "need" to get into heaven is having, as Christ put it, a "faith the size of a mustard seed." Then what was all that about "you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife"? Please pick a lane.
>>27526 >Then what was all that about "you need to do your best in this life because how you act in THIS life will reflect your actions in the afterlife" Because the question inevitably comes up of WHY you're doing your actions in the first place. In fact, that's the entire point of Job, where it directly addresses the fact that there's more to life and faith than just following God and being "rewarded" for it. That's on top of the fact that the entire fucking book is one instance after another showing that people who followed God were NOT that "rewarded greatly" for their faith. Yes, there were instances of them receiving favors, but it was not all the time. In fact, there were dozens of times where they were demanded to give up their "rewards". And coming into the New Testament, much of the content is more concerned with living a fruitfull life that manages to enrich the lives of others. So it really comes down to what type of faith that you have. And perhaps the biggest irony is that the Mudslimes actually inhabit both extremes in an absolutely heretical manner. Where some are so passive that you cannot question anything because "god wills it", but then others would wipe out all life on the planet without hesitation for the purposes of cleansing it of all non-halal elements. But that's also tends to be the final result when you intentionally mistranslate Christian texts and make a Kike your messiah: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CBT3VNH4DQw
>>8366 The institutions of worship has been infiltrated by jews/demons/money hungry sociopaths. This has lead to the degeneration of pastors and leaders to the point they try to pervert the scripture and it's teachings. I mean we literally have governments openly talking about how they are spending tax dollars to pervert the churches. There were even Whole CIA operations about it. So now the (((church))) Is simply another tool for them to destroy Christianity.
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>>8366 >why does the christian church feel like its own worst enemy? I can't speak for every one, but a lot of catholic churches, even trad ones with latin mass, care more about their numbers at the end of the day than they do attracting and maintaining the best and finest in their communities. Women and 3rd worlders love it since they get back pats for having enough of a brain to say christ is king, but anyone with foresight who can see that this kind of system is not sustainable isn't as welcome.I don't know why these churches insist on playing the numbers game since nobody denies that Islam has had them beat in that category for decades
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>>8366 Because jews took control. The church is anti-Christian by design, it is co-opted like religion was back when jews decided to praise demons instead of the Lord.


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