>ROH fans I keep up via highlights on youtube and beingTheElite but i'm mostly interested in BC shit.

I'm interested, is this gud or is it 50% shitpromos 50% shit rassling?

RoH has some decent talent but the loud ass ring alongside the horrible commentary make it hard to watch. They only seem to be a developmental for NXT at this point.

>>65987 The rassling can be pretty good sometimes, especially in the main event scene. But their are very few promos at all.

>>65981 I noticed Fight Network was added to our cable package out of nowhere. Anyways, got to check out ROH, New Japan, TNA and even CMLL. It's all trash. I don't know why these nerds are having such a huge boner for that shit. It's basically the same "workrate" of matches as WWE (sometimes worse) except with lower production values. it's all a fucking meme.

>>66028 >t.Vince

>>66028 Also, I don't think it's the workrate people are jerking off over. It's the booking and storytelling. At least that's why I stopped watching WWE.

>>66028 Wrestling has become the domain of hipster faggots. So anything "Not Mainstream" is "better" because they're contrarian faggots.

>>66035 Check that inferiority complex, lad.

>>66028 >>66035 New japan has a higher workrate then WWE boyos that's just a fact, but they also work way less shows. It's a tradeoff, but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. as >>66030 said storylines are what really matter, and NJPW has better storylines thanks to my boy gedo being the best booker in the biz right now

>>66038 >NJPW has better storylines "Guy wants to fight other guy" is hardly a better storyline. Also New Japan seems to have some series issues with keeping the suspense of disbelief up and running. One minute Okada (I think?) is this cool cocky motherfucker and the next minute he's doing an interview as a typical confidence-devoid Japanese nerd who speaks plainly and is super polite and apologetic.

>>66044 >"Guy wants to fight other guy" is hardly a better storyline. Bullshit. WWE treats everything like a joke. Every other promotion even fucking WCW at times treats things way better.

>>66044 The storylines are built around the titles, which have more value because they have built them up more. Also simplicity is not necessarily a negative.

NJPW is just superior to WWE in every way and everyone who disagrees with me is a mark. Bullet Club f-f-f-for Life.

>>66052 Nerd.

>>66053 Mark.

>Cody **1/2 Rhodes is a so called world champ What a sad day for ROH bots

>>66057 His wife is * at least.

>>66058 five star I meant.

Is she still with TNA or did she split with Cody once Double J came back?

>>66058 It's like an accidental wordfilter for 5 snowflakes. Nice.

If you would have told me when I started visiting here years ago that Cody [redacted] winning the RoH World Championship would be the thing to finally stir up Ring of Honor discussion I'd have never bolieved it. Here's an unrelated webm that I almost posted as the OP of a Ring of Honor thread last summer.

>>66070 I don't get it

>>66071 Companion webm for expected response.

>>66070 >>66072 The Gay Community!?

Dalton bros?

>>66079 >6 man tag team championship why is this a thing?

>>66058 >trying to use asterisk stars >on a site that uses asterisks for formatting >>66069 BEST IN THE WORLD <Wait, that's not Punk… >>66079 >>66085 >proper mics and cameras for ring events >cell phone for backstage >then back to cell phone for in-ring camera REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>66096 <Wait, that's not Punk… It isn't.

>>66087 Because belts sell baby.

>>66087 Eh, for bigger sables I guess. Or to avoid the freebird shit kinda like the New Day holding 2 titles between 3 niggs. >>66096 I like the candid phone cams, not everything needs to be 1080p60fps zoombumps like WWE…

>>66087 In NJPW it's essentially a "best all around stable" title. With that being what that company is primarily based around it works pretty well. no idea why ROH has them though

>>66125 Me and a friend were recently talking about how WWE's production is a real turn off. It's too clean and smooth and makes everything feel as fake as it is. I'm not saying everything should be filmed on cell phone cameras but I really like how NJPW (((FEELS))) like a sports event. I know it's not a sports event, but something about it being presented like one makes it easier for me to suspend my disbelief.

>>66136 It's mostly lighting, NJPW uses a harsher White light while WWE has elaborate lighting rigs. NJPW comes off way easier on the eyes because of this, as does smackdown ironically cause there's way less red making stuff contrast better. NJPW also has better camera angles I feel, and only cuts to the fans during the entrances. WWe has a superior multicamera set up though and is better at quickly cutting to action as it happens. To often in NJPW there's some exciting outside the ring spot happening in a multiman match that doesn't get shown at all, which is a real problem. This is more of a problem on Kouraken hall type shows though so at least they make it work for big shows.

>>66139 Not just that, WWE's set is pretty much the same for ever RAW, SD and PPV (except Wrestlemania), just in different colours. Everything about it feels so sterile, with a lack of a real personality.

>>66139 The lighting doesn't hurt but like the other anon said it's more the set and style of shooting. It may have advantages such as getting great shots of the action as you mentioned, but it really does make it all feel very much the same. Honestly sometimes it feels more like I'm watching a video game than the show. Like WWE2k77 is in Universe Mode for the New Era Showcase and it might as well be for how invested I am.

>>66140 Completely agree, the kouraken hall house shows have a real good environment to them, and the big shows usually have an interesting set design and seating arrangement. WWE does the same thing every time, which creates a sense of cohesion, but also limits individuality. >>66141 I guess whether the lighting hurts is subjective, but I really feel it's the the biggest difference between the two. That super orange highlighting designed to make everyone look more tan on raw really makes it hard to watch after a while. But the sets and angles are for sure more noticeable, I just think the lighting is probably what contributes most to that "sports" like atmosphere as it's how real fights and sporting events are lit, especially in japan. Oh and I was just bringing up the one big fault japan has with it's camera angles, but overall they do a much better job with shooting the matches it's just their live editing team might not be as staffed as it needs to be.

>>66136 WWE production is more about the wrestlers than the actual wrestling. NJPW/ROH feels more like a sporting event while WWE lives up to the 'E'ntertainment aspect. The only criticism I have of WWE's style is how they constantly zoom in and out during every move although NJPW have started to do it >>66140 This. They just change the titantron theme.

>>66142 By "The lighting doesn't hurt" I meant that it is a detractor from WWE and makes everything look fake as well, sorry, that wasn't very clear.

>>66125 Cell phones are the worst possible thing to record with next to mid-2000s photo cameras with crappy video capabilities tossed into sell better. The world isn't black and white, this isn't a binary "4k pro grade rig with $6000 boom mic or potato and NOTHING ELSE" thing. A consumer-grade sony handycam would be fine, just not a fucking cell phone. Makes you look like a faggot hipster that decided to take an interest in photography and youtube vlogging and asked the gay community what version of the iphone you should get for that purpose. At least they aren't filming vertically. >>66140 It's because they cheaped out starting in the PG era. Used to be crazy elaborate changes for PPVs back in the days when the titantron was just the one video screen and the rest of the entrance wasn't just shitty LCD bendy screens. Used to be a lot of other, better PPVs that got abandoned and retired for probably retard reasons.

>>66144 What do you mean by this? we were comparing WWE and NJPW in terms of just production techniques not booking, so I have no idea why you brought up the whole "more about wrestling then wrestler's argument". >>66164 >youtube vlogs That's what it's for, it's their behind the scenes youtube show. >>66150 Phrase you're looking for is "The lighting doesn't help" but don't worry about it dude made me re evaluate my point and specifically nail down what I was trying to say.

>>66177 I meant it in a way that the cameras are always zooming into the wrestlers faces getting reaction shots and crowd shots instead of having stationary camera shots and the occasional ring camera for weird angles. Then they do jumpcuts and switch cameras 20 times while zooming into each punch etc. I guess thats more style than production. Prince Balor said on Jericho that he found it hard adjusting to WWE's style, like standing still for camera shots etc

>>66193 New japan does sometimes get closeups of wrestlers, but it's mostly to accentuate certain moments like heavy selling or those back and forth strike spots. It seems to be WWE's default shot style though so I totally get what you mean. Not sure which one is better or worse though, each has its benefits and drawbacks. I like NJPW a bit more because they balance everything out better, but WWE can capture emotions better when they do get it right.

>>66177 >doesn't know the difference between youtube vlogs and and professional/semipro shows Just buy a goddamn camera you fucking millenial. REEEEEEEEEEE

>>68163 I do know the difference, do you? It's been clearly stated that this footage was from their youtube vlog, not ROH's actual broadcast.

>>68185 >It's been clearly stated that this footage was from their youtube vlog >it's their behind the scenes youtube show. Pick one and only one.

>>68163 the bucks got some new tech so I guess that means new camera + macbook for editing happy???

>>71048 >still looks like a cell phone just with overpriced shit tacked onto it like a grip because just buying a real camcorder is too hard for millenial faggots to comprehend >fagbook pro >it's still the young cucks >it's still the gay community

>>71074 >ROH thread >almost no wrestling, talk about shows, anything

>>68194 But they're the same thing. It's their behind the scenes youtube vlog thing. How dumb are you?

>>71074 even if they had a 8K video with 120 fps you'd still be a hater

>>71378 At that point it would only be because they're the gay community. They'd at least have proper film equipment instead of being millenials.

>>74020 >streamers >no pyro

>>75503 >New Japan Pro Wrestling star Minoru Suzuki. Literally who? It's all about Omegay and Okada™ ==b

>>75503 Death before Dish Nor?

>>75504 Don't remind me of those fucking meltzer babies.

>>75503 Death before dishonor always reminds me of CM Punk vs Raven

>>75511 It was a simpler time.

Starting with a Jay Lethal match tonight.

>>75503 gonna watch just to see minoru slap the piss out of stardust

>>76315 >stardust CEASE AND DESIST!!!

so meta

>>76337 must be nice to cut a promo without 10,000 retards screaming WHAATTT?! every time you pause for half a second

>>79745 Glacier? Holy shit!

Bullet Club, Dalton Castle, War Machine, lots to love.

>>79749 WHAT?

>>82584 HOW BIG IS HANGMAN'S DICK?

>>82593 Not as big as joey ryan's apparently.

>>65981 I wish I could say yes, but what channel does it air on? It's hard for me to catch ROH in any way shape or form.

>>82596 DAMMIT JOEY >>82603 just watch shitty youtube highlights like me

>>83239 >Bullet Club bomber jackets has science gone too far?

>>83240 the best part is cody wearing a suit under his

>>83239 >watch youtube highlights Good idea. >>83240 Those bomber jackets don't look as good as my DX & nWo jackets.

>>83242 >it's even mutilated

>>83827 so is AJ tho

Nakasuzo Codyaro! Shibakuzo Codyaro! Romero vs Ibushi at WK12 Confirmed

>>84696 2 more from last week's episode for no particular reason

>>84696 Absolutely love Dalton, even if I prefer his Remington gimmick

>>87757 This is the least surprising news I've seen here.

>>87846 >Dalton was Ashley Remington I knew he was familiar… https://youtu.be/dGqMNCltako?t=5m11s

>>87867 not sure what you mean by 'was', Dalton Castle debuted on ROH in May 2013. He briefly used "Dalton Caroline Castle" in Chikara before renaming himself Ashley Remington there sometime after September 2013. Personal favor: is anyone able to locate a video clip or animated GIF of Flip Gordon dodging Young Bucks' superkicks by jumping backward into a supine position and then doing a kipup? I've seen him do this to avoid a series of superkicks launched at his head, they're perfecting it pretty well. I've seen this happen at least a couple times.

>>89269 WHATS THE WWE UNITED KINGDOM CHAMPIONSHIP DOING IN THE ROH ZONE?

>>89180 They literally just did the spot with both Bucks a few minutes ago on tonight's Final Battle show, but here's a similar one from an episode last month's ROH TV that I have at the moment. (Based on the commentary of this match it sounds like it might've happened at the Chicago Global Wars show as well, but I can't confirm.)

>>89269 Reminds me of the Raw tag team titles from 2003 or whenever. It sucks. The older one is better.

>>66072 >>66070 >>66079 >>66085 >>84696 >>87846 >>87867 >>89277 >the nightmare has ended

>>89291 >He actually won Does that mean its dalton castle vs ibushi at WK? If this was the wwe I would've assumed cody got a wellness violation.

>>89296 Sounds like it's still Ibushi vs Cody at WK. This title change probably frees him up to be on more New Japan shows and in the G1 next year.

>>89298 >>89296 Is the ROH title not at wrestle kingdom then? Or will that be a match added to make the 12 matches for wk 12?

>>89180 >>89285

>>89320 WHATS THE BLUDGEON BROTHERS DOING IN THE ROH ZONE?

>>89320 >smaller promo has to steal bigger promo's gimmicks >anomalous

The Best Wrestling on the Planet™

>>90821 >Killian Dane knock-off fucking around instead of doing anything interesting >being gay

>>90839 That's hanson from war machine, who has been working longer than big damo and is also much better honestly. He's coming to WWE soon too so I don't even have to tell you to watch new japan or ROH to see how good he is.

>>90851 Do you not watch anything besides wwe

>>90854 Oh hey misawa.

>>90857 is ospreay delusional enough to think that shitty strike was anything special

>>90821 >>90851 big damo isn't a viking nor does he do flippy shit. being fat and having a beard isn't gimmick theft. >>90840 >He's coming to WWE soon pls no stop making these rumors into reality btw sanity vs war machine would be nice but i'm thinking bludgeon bros would be good too.

>>90862 >exact same hair/beard style >exact same clothing style >only missing the back hair <t-totally original donut steel

>>90865 >same hair/beard and clothing style is enough to copy someone Goldberg a copy of Stone Cold confirmed.

>>90865 >was wrestling with this gimmick years before dain Even if you had an argument you still have your facts wrong

>>90867 >generic tights and baldness is EXACTLY the same as very specific "halfway up the fat belly" shorts and viking beard

>>90885 Dude you're a fucking idiot, stop trying to damage control

>>90885 You forgot the beard, and yes that is exactly what you're saying basically. You're just too stupid to see it.

>>90888 >wasting trips on non-arguments >>90889 >forgot the beard <mentioned the beard

>>90894 No he meant Austin and Goldberg's goatee.

>>90894 My argument is that you're a fucking idiot. If you wish to present a counterargument to this claim I would be more than willing to hear it out.

>>90894 I meant Austin and Goldberg you retard.

>>90897 >>90900 >being this asshurt >having no fucking argument beyond ad hominem attacks but wanting a counter-argument >this is what's needed for ROH to get attention

>>90915 I don't even watch ROH that much, you're just retarded. War Machine has been for a few years now.

>>90915 >doesn't even try to present an counterargument Well that's fine, at least you've accepted that you're a fucking idiot. Sorry that you're so down on yourself though I bet if you tried a little harder things could turn around for you.

>>90923 >>90921 >ooga booga hurr durr ur retrdud bcuz i say so I have no real argument but you need to present an academic one m-muh feels You'd see someone in ROH literally using a repainted version of Kane's outfit and mask and screech at someone calling it out as a knock-off.

>>90929 I'll just assume you're just baiting at this point. Killian Dane is nothing like Hanson, dude. Trust me.

>>90930 >Trust me

>>90929 Listen I get it, not being able to express yourself right is difficult, you could try getting out more and maybe meeting a few new people. That may help you pick up on some better social skills.

>>90931 >>90930 >Trust Me

>>90931 see >>90933

>>90930 >>90932 >everything that disagrees with my sad world view is bait because i say so >>>/v/ >literal goon-tier passive aggressive non-arguments >>>/somethingawful/

>>91221 The argument is over man I already won when you stopped adressing my points and started sperging about ad-hominems. At this point I'm just concerned for your mental and social well being

>>91223 but muh killeen dane knock off

>>91223 You had no point in the first place, Cody.

>>91227 I did you just ignored it and continued to be the gay community by spreading scat all over this thread. How bout you get out of that semi-ironic mask and we settle this like real men?

>>66069 He definitely got owned, but he still lasted significantly longer than any one of us would have.

>>91229 You're a few months late to be responding.

>>90821 >The Best Wrestling on the Planet™ Undeniable now, considering the response this webm got.

>>91232 >>90821 >Best wrestling on the planet >Beta Cucks Choose one. >Beta Cucks, f-for life >I'm Beta Cuckin', so I film them with my cam, >I filmed them, I think I'm having fun, >I filmed them, I filmed them with my cam, >I'm going to film them, >I'm going to film them, I filmed them with my cam >Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the beta cucks! >Tama Tocucka, Bad Luck Fail, The Young Cucks, >Fagiro Takahashi, A.Gay STYLES, Doc Gayows, >The Machine Cum; Kuck Anderson, Fag Balor, >Kenny Oh-Beta, bolieve in the beta cucks, >bolieve. in. us. Everything we do, is just too GAAAAAYYYYYYYY!

>>91235 >>91235 >Ben Womack knock-off

>>91236 Ben Womack?

>>91235 At least you aren't the fag, saying someone is a Killian Dane knock-off.

>>91241 I have no idea who that is. lol

>>91243 Ok nevermind you're the legit Womack compared to discount Womack.

>>91228 No, you didn't, you at most had argumentum ad absurdum with "lol so every bald person is a ripoff of other bald people" before devolving to autistic screeching.

>>91246 You did the same shit.

>>91246 That wasn't me lmao nice projection though mister goonspeak

>>91244 >you're the legit Womack I have no idea who that is. Plus my last name starts with a C.

>>91247 >>91250 >projecting this hard

>>91267 Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, >>>reddit is three blocks down that way

>>91271 >projectin' Cody Rhodes doesn't even know how to board link

>>91274 >owned nerd still trying to look cool

Are you All In? https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018

>>92651 SEPTEMBER 1ST WARNING?!

>>92651 WHATS BRYAN DANIELSON DOING BACK IN THE ROH ZONE? Vince will strike him from history if he did that Bullet Club show.

#ALL_IN_2018

>Everyone making up fantasy matches in their heads >The main event is going to be cody vs kenny >Cody wins >>92691 >Rapist mustache cm punk

>>92705 Pretty sure the main event is Hungman vs Joey Ryan but we can call it a 'DOUBLE MAINEVENT' I guess.

War Machine #ALL_IN_2018 September 1st

>>92711 >War Machine #ALL_IN_2018

That is BUSHI is that Bushi?, El Generico and Sexy Star are confirmed to be #ALL_IN_2018 September 1th

In wrestling, there's only two things that are all in: the money and the miles.

Could it be? It is!

>>92804 What's Jailbird Swan doing in the 2SweetZone?

ALL IN Main Event Leaked [BELL CLANGING INTENSIFIES] vs Stardust #ALL_IN_2018 September 1rd

AJ Styles vs Jim Ross in a sodomy on a pole match

>>94546 Now that's a fucking card

>>94546 I take it Pac-Man and Donkey Kong busy that day.

I guess I'm watching honorable ring.

>>96902 >wanting to watch CAWdy why? you having trouble sleeping? should be a neat match. cody going over brother hh leader 5

>>96902 >build feud in new japan for half a year >BREAKing point is after the end of a NJ show >finale is at an RoH show I've been played like a damn fiddle, i hate RoH but i guess i have to watch this.

>>96904 >finale This is just starting.

Looking at >>96924 again, I just remembered Frankie Kazarian taking a shot at TNA on ROH TV 2 weeks ago.

On The Young Bucks claiming they are better friends because they are “lip kiss friends”: >Chuck Taylor: I watched the video. It’s borderline illegal, right? They’re kind of floating in the incest area, aren’t they? I think they can go to jail but Trent and I could kiss all day and not go to jail. It’s 2018 but I am pretty sure incest is still on the books. I think you can go to jail.

>>96926 Ironic because kalisto is in the background.

Nice back, Dalton.

>>96926 >lip kiss friends >also brothers Why can't I hold all these AJs?

>>96926 >>96934 Not that I condone fags kissing but I don't think it can be called incest unless there is some degree of penetration happening. In not-gay news it sounds like the old Bullet Club members are going to rebel against NuClub.

>>96935 Tama Haku run-in at Supercard confirmed.

>>96932 They're aj's friends! aj is friends with the gay community!

What did they mean by this?

>>96939 Went a bit TNA era Scott Steiner there, but otherwise ominous enough.

OHHH MYYY ITS THE CREATOR OF THE WOMEN'S REVOLUTION™

>>97791 That is one long filename. That's a claim she still attests to. People say this so called wymyns revolution began in NXT with the 4 'horsewymyn' but Emma vs Paige for the inaugural NXT women's champtionship was a good match and essentially set the tone for future womens matches there. It's on that basis she says she created the womens revolution but WWE never bothered to tell anyone this so she would at least have some reason, rather than just appearing like an idiot making shit up.

>>98031 But why do that when you plan to just job her out to asska and release her with a few other people to pay Brock's salary?

>>98048 >to pay ronda's salary?

>>98048 >Brock >implying it's not all going to overrated MMA girl I'm curious to see how much they signed her for, it better not be more than based Brock

>>98056 >>98055 You think they'd get rid of Daren Young to pay a woman?

>>101714 >Stealing from WWE

wait, jay lethal is bald now?

>>92708 G.O.A.T.

>>111709 So who was fighting?

>>111708 (((You've summon'd me)))

>>111709 >>111717 >There was a locker room fight before the 4/14 show in Pittsburgh. We didn’t get much in the way of details but a lot of wrestlers tweeted about it and didn’t like the idea of it. Basically there was somebody who was an extra and he was apparently sitting in Christopher Daniels chair. He was asked to move, and evidently got mouthy about it and ended up in an argument with Flip Gordon that turned into a fight, which Gordon, who has an MMA background, won quickly. Nobody got hurt, past some food being stepped on. That’s why Cody joked about now putting Gordon in the All In show after.

Does roh have as many false finishes as wwe now or less cause nothing ruins a match for me more than a suplex into a moonsault and than the 5’6 black guy gets powerbombed off a ladder through a table and no sells it

https://www.cagesideseats.com/2018/7/6/17540660/taeler-hendrix-sexual-harrassment-allegation-against-roh-world-champ-jay-lethal-investigation?utm_campaign=cagesideseats&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter OH NO NO NO NO