Shark love!

I love fucking sharks!

well...fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WFg2wq10rw

It's fucking over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WFg2wq10rw

>>1952 Aww shit

>>1735 It's over.

>>1735 YOU DID THIS IT'S YOUR FAULT

I feel fucking sick.

>>2969 Try to hold your feels until the stream today is over. No point in getting anxious with no info.

It hurts... I thought I was ready. I wasn't.

How could you do this to us?

>>3855 Don't blame dude. It makes it worse. Just accept. You can't change it no matter how much you rage and scream into the void.

>>3647 >Stage 1: Denial

>>4183 I went through them pretty fast tbh It's gonna be ok bros

we should migrate to holotower so we don't have to deal with cancerous non-holos and their subhuman fans

>>4227 Sister pls

>>4372 t. non-holo cancer enjoy your twitch whores

>>4227 it's here! https://holotower.org/hlgg/res/17061.html

>>4183 I feel like I've been in stage 3-4 for the past 2 years so finally making it official feels like catharsis if anything.

I'm in acceptance over Gura but still in anger over Cover.

Other than tower anyone know of major chumbud diasporas? I think we should try to congregate them here since tower is hololive only and seems kinda gay anyways.

>>8938 You should go to holotower chumkek.

It's over chumbuds

You lost, chumcucks

I'd just like to take this opportunity to call everyone who said there's no way she's graduating, "2 more weeks, sister", etc a retard.

you phaggots deserve this lmao go back to /a/ you fucking tourists bet you wont even follow senzawa after this

another evening shift, another dollar i blame that last chumbie who posted toat moments before the site died.

>>11915 Welcome back bud.

I didn't think she would graduate because I believed her mascot status made her untouchable but I guess Cover went full retard. Anyways, every truebud knows Gura leaving this dogshit company is a cause for celebration.

>>13595 I'll only start celebrating if she comes back in some way. I don't even need constant streams or anything. I just don't want her to disappear forever.

Can we poach buds to post here instead?

>>13619 shes gonna be a tiktoker instead and will focus on quick quips to support her pregnancy with jake

>>14339 This anon is right.

I hope we get to see a Senzawa x Henya collab one day

I'm both sad and pissed that she's gone... I could hardly stomach the announcement stream

How come you guys are here and not in the tower?

>>19509 Too reddit

Hewwo....?

Thoughts?

I would have waited until September to round it up to a full five years. Five years is a long time. Vtubing is a young persons game. I can understand needing to move on. Cherish the memories, be happy you were around to experience it.

>>21352 lol

I want to fucking kill myself. Gura is dead and so is 4chan. Everything is fucked.

>>27674 Hang in there Chumbie. Every end is just a beginning and theres gonna be another good day eventually. Im way older than most of the folks in the fandom with kids about your age and ive seen enough shit to know that fact. Its weird though this does feel like when I was young and a relationship just ended leaving me feeling hopeless and lost and im betting thats how a lot of us are feeling right now. Still theres always gonna be tomorrow and for all we know that big blue dum-dum may sing for us again sometime and tyou dont wanna miss it

>>21352 In other words: don't feed the trolls!

>>21352 Should have added the part where she says she's happy with the current arrangements. Like yes we get it Mori you have a deal with Universal AND Cover and you're performing in front of Japanese royalty, for some reason. She has a sweetheart deal, of course she's happy with it.

not to beat a dead horse but I left for two days and there was a fucking cataclysm don't die on me, buds

>>30054 Why aren't you in holotower

This thread got very quiet How are you holding up?

Found you buds. I choked up during her final line. But she said she's optimistic for the future. So I will try to be too. I just don't want her to stop being a vtuber. I don't care what form she takes as long as she's still herself.

>>32712 You're found! Yeah, but it's gonna be ok. Hope she is proud of what she did and can look forward to what's to come. And can't wait to see the new name, assuming the "#1 fan of gawrgura & [...]" rrat is correct. What new animal do you think she would pick? Catfish?

>>32758 She could be any ocean life she wants as long as she's still cunny.

>>32879 oh, she will. She's a cunnysseur.

>>32758 Assuming she doesn't just come back as Sena 2.0 I hope she picks something without a giant fishtail because I feel like it overly restricts her outfit options and artists seem to have extreme difficulty getting it right, often they either have the sharktail coming out of her asshole or way up on her spine.

>>33001 >sharktail coming out of her asshole Yeah.....I wonder who that was..*cough*cover*cough* I fucking hope she can get Nacho-mama to do it too, that would be amazing.

shark...

I've got my ticket for the long way 'round

Two bottle whiskey for the way

And I sure would like some sweet company

And I'm leaving tomorrow. What'd you say?

Sup chumbuds, I haven't browse vt in 3 years, what the fuck happened in hololive

>>45055 >And I'm leaving tomorrow. What'd you say? https://youtu.be/ZVc15-01RvM

>>45242 It went public

>>45290 I see, yeah they need to print money as much as they can for profit

So is she done doing Vtubing, or just rebranding away from HoloLive. It's a young persons game for sure, but I can't imagine her living a normie life.

>>45753 All signs point to the latter.

>>46696 living a normie life? Good for her. Be the pewds of the chuuba scene

>>47011 No I meant the latter as in > So is she done doing Vtubing, or just rebranding away from HoloLive. She was seen adding modelers/riggers as contacts on Senzawa months ago, her bio has that mysterious '#1 fan of Gawr Gura & ", and she ended graduation announcement saying how she is "feeling optimistic for the future". Rebrand might come sooner than expected.

>>8111 Same, i've been stage 4 for the longest time. I was sad but now hopefully she'll have energy to just regularly stream (coping)

I cant stop being sad This is hard

how big do you think the sticky would've been?

>>54278 >Noombers who cares

>>21352 that's cope

https://youtu.be/46kg0_P6U2E she was so real for this one

Do chumbuds like Senzawa's model?

oh boy

Has anyone started backing up all her members only streams and posts? Because after she is gone we will no longer have them to watch. I would back them up myself but I don't know how to backup the streams.

>>64033 Use yt-dlp. There's an option to allow it to recognize that you're signed in an you can download members vods that way

>>64058 be careful there was something a while ago about yt-dlp with cookies on youtube got your account banned. idk just do some research and be prepared to get account fucked

Man this project better be good.

>>64058 I need it idiot proof. I will never learn how to use this program.

>>29892 Let's not pretend she didn't work her ass off for those things. I honestly expected Gura to be the EN having sololives, but she's too lazy.

>>64117 I'm hoping for an 6-12 episode anime miniseries. maybe 2-3 minutes long with and intro and outro, both of which are original songs. >lmao wishful thinking My oshi is graduating, it's all I have left.

>>64174 I'm retarded and I figured it out. If you can read and use a keyboard you can use yt-dlp

>>33001 Whatever she reincarnates as (if she does at all), it's not gonna be as good as Gura. That's the only sad part about her leaving Hololive.

Live

>>30212 the fucks "holotower"?

>>64403 an echochamber with overly involved jannies.

>>64403 That's the new slang for reddit.

>>59051 it's mid I hope she changed it to fish or something

Gura Cute Gura Cute

>>64403 Don't know but those fags are shilling it everywhere. This is the 4th or 5th time I've seen some version of "why aren't you at holotower". So I don't know what it is but I'm inclined to think it's Sharty-related.

PARROT, PUT ME IN THE VIDEO

>>59051 Not much If she comes back probably needs to cunnyfy it and make it more 2d, even better if she has white/blue hair instead of blue. And fix her color palette, is too ugly. In a ideal world she asked Nacho to make her a new model in advance, but probably too lazy/social retard to do it. She can't be a retard gremling again like chibidoki, would kill her charisma

FEEL BETTER GURA

Is Parrot even aware of this place?

"I have no idea what is going to happen with memeber content" Panic time boys.

>>64549 I don't know why they don't just make members stuff public once the channel ends. It's not like they're getting any more money out of them.

did she admit to just going indie or am i reading to much into it

>>64545 he pushed it on his twitter, so yeah

>>64566 >we'll cross again in the ocean ye, but probably not too soon.

>>64545 >>64566 it's what it sounded like to me. Optimism for the future, and then corrected herself.

>>64566 u dumb or something?

i cant believe the private business men meetings drove her to leave the company. fuck this shit gay company. she deserved better

>>64566 >>64583 Senzawa posted a shark emote on Twitter like a week ago.

>>64581 >well keep having fun whether its here at holo or elsewhere

>>64597 Yes.

may i leach about a future nimi collab here?

Gura...... https://youtu.be/5PdXIHGvMpk

>>64631 Doubt it. They barely interacted even in Hololive despite having some great chemistry.

>>64631 I am unironically hoping to see Senzawa, Dooby, Nimi, and Randon in a collab together. Toss in Mint and Dokibird for the fun of it.

she knew for years lets be honest funny how she said she was basically forced to lie by management but people will still defend them after this

Gura and Ame probably planing on leaving on the same day

>>64562 I dunno why some choose not to. Seems to be up to the talent. I think Shion and Chloe decided not to. I can't remember if Ame did.

>>64649 didnt nimi imply she still watches gura in one of her earlier streams?

gura the type of streamer to fire up a stream on PL minutes after her final stream ends

>>64656 >wtf she can't tell the public people are quitting that's normal. I'm not a corpo dicksucker, but anyone pretending Gura leaving isn't almost entirely on her is delusional. She checked out years ago.

>>64652 kill yourself, homobeggar

>>64682 You're going to be super upset when you're reminded Senzawa would collab with anybody that showed up.

Still piss me off to lose one of the most perfect duo of model+person in vtubing. The shark little girl matches too well with her voice/personality. I can't imagine a more perfect roomate to Gura And can't imagine a more perfect model for Sena.

>>64652 Glad I can ignore all posts from this ID now.

>PL get out nijicuck

>>64403 Holotower.org, basically a place just for generals. Most of the fanbases are there, Chumbuds included.

>>64717 >globalniggers Nah I'm food

>>64695 not that you retard... the part where she has to come on stream and say things are ok you can say things are bad but you cant talk about them, but clearly they arent allowed to imply eveything isnt perfect

>>64717 well tell them to come here (the superior board)

>>64707 based information sharer, thanks for the tip. Have a goob.

>>64707 Corpo-loyalty is the consolewar faggotry of the decade.

If it's not Full Color, I'm gonna shit myself

>>64707 How do you filter IDs?

>>64760 full color?

>>64766 Hit the circle with the line through it, and click filter id.

>>64777 Jesus Christ......

>>64766 Click the round...."no" sign?

1 song, releasing on the hour released with KC Edwards

>casey edwards Who?

>>64784 >>64788 Thanks. I was looking at the settings.

SHE STILL LOVES DMC!!!! No way.... Please Gura, talk to Biboo......

>>64800 Guy who wrote bury the light, devil trigger. Not my cup of tea, but it's probably something she was super excited for so that makes me happy.

damn thats actually insane

isn't he a chumbud?

>>64815 Gura doesn't like rival cunnies.

oh shit, so the guy who animated myth bad end is doing the music video for the song she worked on with devil trigger writer damn son.

>>64842 weird how all the en lolis just like dont talk atleast publicly

This sounds cool as fuck, but... Man, Full Color is extra fucking dead. Only available versions are the one with the crowd, or the fucking Mori cover lmao It's over

>>64726 >>64733 However there is no numbers thread on tower so that throws which one is the superior board into question. Better moderation and traffic over there too

so...basically shes saying she may come back, but graduation for her current form is final right so if she did come back she would be an adult and after a while?

she's making no secret about coming back at least

>>64867 I mean, Gura and Biboo are the only EN cunnies. Ina is almost 160cm.

>>64889 no retard. SHE is coming back

DUDE WE GET IT GURA YOURE COMING BACK AS AN INDIE

>>64899 Ina is hebe

Picture looks like Gura is being gangbanged by ghosts

>>64912 Hebe is a meme term. She's a pettanko.

>>64901 my bad i am the retarded so i thank you for helping me understand

>>64915 All me

>>64899 i mean i consider gura biboo and gigi to be the en cunnies ina and cici are just flat but not brat

>>64903 >streams once every six months wow

>>64930 gigi is Player 2 Bae

>>64940 if i liked her i would be mad but i dont like that nijifag

>>64923 >Casey had discord sex with Biboo and Gura Fucking Gigachad pedo. Chumbies and pebblephiles could never

So the big project she's been teasing for 2 years was one song?

>>64952 didint biboo get railed by her entire ff14 guilde or smth?

>>64965 Yup.

>>64965 For western women a "project" like this is the most important event in their lives. For a JP chuuba it's a normal every day errand.

Ash again si her song name.

>>65010 kek

>>65022 why are western standards this slobby

>>65010 me on the middle

its up

>new song is unironically a management hate piece BASED AS FUCK

>can't be bothered with a premiere come on goomba...

this does not sound like gura wtf

based schizo shark

sounds like a league of legends song in a good way

she hates us...

>>65063 its definitely a song alright

It was actually really good

my favorite part is myth coming together and pulling her out of the water. obviously, because she can't swim

Thank god we got one Gura song in English. I like it, sounds almost like a Bond movie opening.

>>21352 this coming from the same person who nearly got gura doxed and is the one benefiting from all the company changes that other members are leaving because of is hilarious.

>>21352 a lot of words to say "Fuck you, got mine"

So this is what Gura's been feeling all this time huh... Surprised she stuck around as long as she did.

An Original Song in english? In HoloEN? WTF Is that even ALLOWED!?

>>21352 >>65132 Mori is a whore who is owned by Universal not Hololive, her word cant be trusted even a tiny bit

I agree too that seems to read as in "fuck all the motherfuckers who made me like this, i'll come back from my ashes" >>65075 Yeah i can see this being like the theme song for a LOL world championship or similar.

>>21352 we were just a burden weren't we?

What does it mean?

>>65169 Even better, it's not just deepl translated lyrics like IRyS' songs always are.

I cried

>>65132 Gura literally said Ame's name on stream and is far too lazy to actually be successful in the music industry.

>>21352 I trust the word of Yagoo more than a UMJ slave

This KC Edwards cooked with the lyrics >ame >Ina >kiara >Mori

>>65169 Calli has like six of those

>>65199 Sorry, I said songs, not noise.

>>65010 Genius

>>65181 who knows, all i know is Casey Edwards cooked and Gura was right

>>65208 kek

>>65181 i mean... its a pretty obvious management slam project and implying she will be back without them

qucik download it before managment pulls a niji

>>65193 Too high IQ for me, didn't even realize it

>>65181 Follow Gura's PL history far back enough and pay attention to the spirit in which she made things even when she was young. She loves production and making things. She was never a good fit for Japanese corpo drudgery, but she made it work for as long as she could because it was her only avenue. But in the end, a piece that doesn't fit is a piece that doesn't fit, and she needs to be able to do things according to her personal impulse, not a timetable handed to her by a manager. I really hope she reconnects with Dooby and they get up to some nonsense without having to look for managers over their shoulders or beg perms in their inboxes.

another nijicuck to get filtered

>>65249 Yea, pretty much. it's all over the song. >Burn it down >Burn it down >>65259 I'm a dumbbud too, I only realized after a second listen

management hitpiece holy shit

>>65312 She really came out for blood. I can hear her screaming in her first Muse Dash stream, "NOW THAT'S AN APEX PREDATOR, BAYBEE"

im somewhat crossposting from holotower but when she says shes the wave she implies beforehand that managment is the ship wich means she knows holo(the ship) needs her(the wave) but that she will destroy them

>>65344 Gura has been "gone" for 2 years. Hololive isn't going anywhere. Sorry chumbuddies, but I'm a boomer. I don't take the whining from people who don't want to work to the heart.

>>65249 >>65296 wth how many member gonna graduate before yagoo accept to fired all of them , is this move really worth it after all.

So she's gonna tear down and burn down Hololive, and will become the Number 1 EN chubba a third time? Fucking BASED

>>65344 somewhat my ass, you know there are ids and we can see all your shitpost?

>>65375 it would be very easy for her to do, lets be honest

>>65344 what even is holotower?

gura's first song was a banger and is one of my favorite vtuber songs of all time and now her final song is also a banger absolute cinema

>>65388 holocountry

>>65388 just another altchan, everyone's basically scattered at this point

>>65388 subreddit

>>65386 "Gawr Gura is back" could drive enough traffic to either Senzawa or a new channel on buzz alone that she'd immediately shoot up to the top 1% before even uploading or streaming anything. The only channels above her after 24 hours would be like Filian or Ironmouse, and even that wouldn't likely hold out long term.

>>65396 makes it harder for seafags

>>65406 Both of them can't even beat Nimi retard, if you want numberfag at least do it right

>>65438 wtf i had no idea nimi was this big

>>65438 I'm not a numberfag, just hopeful she'll do well no matter what she does next. I'm speculating on the amount of instant success she'd get on recognition alone. I didn't know Nimi hit it off that hard though, good for her.

>>64599 No point in asking you for proof even in the end you people just pull stuff out your ass.

>>65438 what the fuck is this bait. Nimi is a friend in the effort to burn Holo down, there's no need to numberfag them against each other. It will be Nimi and HER number versus corpo slaves like Mori and... idk, is there anyone else of note pro-corpo in EN? I feel like even most of the homocollaber are sometimes anti-corpo

>>65375 It sounds more like everyone's telling her to burn it all down, but she would do it all again if she could. I think she enjoyed her time there, but it just became too stifling. She's ready to move on, but she has no regrets. As you can tell by the kino Myth cameo.

>>65462 if she decides to go indie, and if the chumbuds are as loyal as they claim. she is pretty much settled

>>65193 I noticed that too. It was awesome.

>>65193 Brainlet here. How does the 2nd one link to Ina? Bad End? Is that the only link?

>>65472 are we talking about subs or viewers? in viewers Nimi shat on them

odds gura goes indie?

>>65589 100%

>>65589 100% she's been streaming or making videos in some format for the last 10+ years

>>65589 im really curious about it. a lot of people seems confidant to say she will go indie. and i hope they are right tbh

>>65606 I wonder if she'll focus mostly on streaming for a bit or get back into collaborative projects straightaway. She's done VA for abridged anime, random crossover shitposts with MTB, a song for a literal whore, so on and so forth.

>>65406 I wouldn't hold my breath about her starting to stream somewhat consistently after that.

>>65388 A place where saying Cover is shit is enough to get 3days off

>>65589 The alternative is that she gets a regular job. You really think she could handle that? Of course shes going to go indie. The only question is if she wants to do it right away or not.

>>65623 a song for who?

>>65594 >>65606 >>65622 >>65642 Mostly wondering because dooby has been a little in her own head lately, I think they should stream together for a good time

>>65622 watch streams, she basically said it 8 times

>>65672 I'm sorry you had to find out this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwPhSQwHWQE

>>65689 this is fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3peOEALne4

>>65684 that would mean no streams

>>65689 To be fair she wasn't doing porn at the time yet.

Every bit of communication between Casey Edwards and Gura had to go through 3 layers of JOP businessmen and 2 layers of Google Translate... No wonder it took so long. Great result though.

>>65684 What that traitor homowhore needs to collab with is a shotgun in her mouth.

>>65717 I unironically liked this collab and the song is catchy

>>65736 >>65740 THEY ARE

Queen Senzawa

>>65742 I want a serious answer, even if only hypothetical, about what you'll do if/when these Western streamers are no longer restrained by Japanese corporate idol corporation rules and feel free to collab with anyone they want, and do so. Like you remember Gura is American and is only LARPing to a Japanese company's standards, right? She never showed reluctance to interact with guys before putting on the blue triangle?

>>65769 She's not coming back as "Senzawa." Senzawa's twitter bio says she is the "#1 fan of @gawrgura &" She's obviously going to put her new persona in there.

I'm surprised management let her project go through when it's got burn management and start anew written all over it

>>65834 And also the "no hands upon my words, they only speak for me" part is pretty much shitting on managements censorship so it's pretty ironic that this song got through

>>65589 prior to todays stream, I wouldn't have been to sure. But ye, even before the song release, she was bad about not hinting at it during the stream. After today, i'm on the 100% bus.

>>65733 She said she vented directly to him over discord you dumb bud

>>66076 pretty sure that was a joke

>>66076 >Casey Edwards when some spoiled girl is crying about having to do her job to you

>>65969 >Gura blasting the mane-chan who writes her twitter posts KINO

>>66076 NTA but you can have regular normal communications with someone and still be forced to make official communications through 64 layers of japanese bureaucracy source: Working with japanese games companies for decades

>>66100 you would be very incorrect

>>66122 >Having to endure some discord trauma in order to score a cunny Seems a very worth price to pay. Remember how down horrendous he was for Biboo, giving her perms for his song live on stream and saying he'll tank the punishment from Capcom. This guy knows what he wants, and how to get it. Based king, teach me your ways!

Never watched Gura Don't really care about the song's between-the-lines meaning I just want to say that the song is a banger

>>64239 Do it for me lazy.

I’m sad. I’m just really sad. This song reignited my grief.

>>66971 She'll be back. And happier. And more unhinged, with nobody to answer to.

>>66988 I understand. I know the implication of the door. I will be happy so long as she is happy. But I’m sad, because I don’t like endings, and I loved her as her. It all got cut short and I can’t get the lump out of my throat. I just wish she didn’t have to go.

>>66971 Her song shows how much it was a necessity for her to leave. She had to, if she wanted to continue being genuine with herself and her audience. We all know she's been heavily restricted with what she can or can't do or say on stream and on social media. Even in her grad announcement she's admitted she's lost even the appetite to down a meal from all the hoops she had to go through. If you really cared you'd see this as a silver lining. She'll finally be able to do what she wants on her own terms

>>67017 I likewise understand. My oshi left and it hasn't been the same even post-reincarnation. But you will feel relief the first time her stream goes live again.

>>67051 I understand, and I know I’m being selfish. But it hurts. It hurts as bad as losing a friend, and that kind of sad doesn’t understand silver linings

Management hate Long live Gork Gumbus

>>67087 Like I’m aware that Gura the character will still exist, and that Gura the person will still exist, but that spark that made me love her is gone, and my heart hurts

Thoughts on who the two Guras represented, in the conflict? I think the shark hoodie Gura was her hololive persona, and dress Gura was her own self. The hololive persona "lost" to her own self (anxiety, sinking, etc), but with the help of Myth and her own determination, holo Gura came back and "won". Even so, she decided that it would be best to let her own self go through the door and start something new.

>>67350 You’re probably right. I just really wish there was a way to reconcile the two.

Guys I just found out I'm the last chumbud. I'm not sure how it happened. I'm happy but at the same time I'm very sad.

>>67350 The interesting thing is that thematically it really feels like it could have been done in 2022 and onward - just when Gura slowed down on streaming and seemingly started to get frustrated with Hololive. But the ending has a feeling of being adjusted to the recent news - it just doesn't make sense for Hoodie Gura to fight so hard to not let Dress Gura leave through the door only to become Dress Gura herself and leave through the door anyway

The hoodie Gura vs dress Gura feels like a Jungian thing. She beat her shadow but moved on by incorporating it instead of destroying it. Maybe a callback to Reflect in some way. Maybe reincorporating Gawr gave Gura the strength to do what needed to be done. She's rediscovered her inner gremlin.

>>67466 the whole song is about her reconciling the two

>>67595 Good point, with this narrative you'd think the ending was formulated recently. But I wonder whether Gura made her decision quite a while ago (year+?), and has been staying on just to perfect the MV. As Mori said, "we've known for a while".

>>67658 And then leaving. I mean reconciling and staying

>>67658 Maybe in some respects. But whatever happened, shark hoodie Gura is gone, by the end of the MV.

In Reflect, Gawr coming back was the threat, and her fight was to push HER back down and just be Gura the holo (hoodie). In Ash Again, Gawr is free from her cage, and about to leave holo as Gawr, when Gura stops her and wins the fight. As they reconcile, all that left is "Gawr" (all that ever was), but no longer the rageful beast, but a calm and collected one, preparing to go back to the outside world.

>>67691 My headcannon is that it had been ready for quite some time, but the management would never have allowed its release because it's too bleak for Gura's image, to say nothing of obvious "management hate" references. Then when the decision was made the ending was changed to reflect the circumstances which the MV would get released in

The glowing myth members was kino

>>67631 >Maybe a callback to Reflect in some way. Kino.

I just keep thinking back to all those times gura was "working on projects" behind the scenes and we were speculating world tour or an anime - imagine telling everyone back then it would be this song.

>>67834 I'd love to know long after Reflect she started thinking about this one. Cause if Blue gura won at the end, it would feel just like a retread. But supposedly Red gura "winning" (Atlantean Gura even, to reinforce the idea that this is the Original, not something that was born later or something that feels like the Other, like Red gura in Reflect), but after reconciling and absorbing blue Gura, and her growth at holo, before going back outside, it does feel like a departure piece.

>>67927 This may also be the case of reading too much and finding connections where there isn't any. Perhaps the current ending would make just as much sense as if Gura was staying

>>67834 >>67927 Ashamed to admit, but I was one of the skeptics when Gura kept talking about one project for years and rarely streaming. But this explains everything. If she had already mostly made the decision to graduate, and was honing this masterpiece of a graduation message, while wading through the red tape of the very corpo she was leaving, while having to tell her fans that everything was fine... Now I'm just relieved that she was able to get through it with a positive message in the end, succeeding both as an idol and as a person.

>>67927 This is absolutely a departure piece. I won’t say for sure that there’s a “fuck management” messaging to it, otherwise it would ever be released, but there is definitely a message about not enjoying being tied down by her own reputation. As much as we all told her that she didn’t have to be afraid to be herself, she was anyway, and she seems to have become resentful because of it (hence not wanting to stream), and this song expresses that.

>>68091 Not as it is, unless she went through a rebranding of sorts, or doing something else with her character (like a somewhat of a weird example but, Kiara coming out and saying Takamori was over, only for it to come back stronger than before. What died was the corpo ship, with Calli as the tsun and Kiara as the clingy, replace by something more natural and true to their real selves, with Kiara being the upfront one and Calli more on the mellow side)

>>68168 I think “I’m going to do my own thing” could have worked as a message within holo. It clearly means “I’m doing it own thing on my own” here, but if she chose to stay, the same sentiment could have applied to her backing down from being a company face, and instead saying “screw public image or whatever” and doing whatever the hell she wanted (within corpo guidelines, at least). There are ways to do that, as a few other talents have shown. Gura believed she couldn’t do that, though, and whether she was right or not, she made her decision a long time ago.

>>68202 it could have worked for sure, but I'm afraid Gura always had a lot of trouble speaking up her mind. Instead of doing something about it, she just shuts down and represses all that frustation inside. There are many clips of her talking about it. The one about the perms was brutal. Her talking about how she was able to speak up and ask for all these perms, only to be laughed at by management. I don't think it was a laugh of "we can't do that", but a much worse "oh, now you decide to speak up?". It came out as a surprise for them, as they weren't expecting her to change, ever. That alone might have been one of the interaction that made her completely shut down, her mind gobling game is very strong at that.

I'm kinda of too dumb and not checked in enough to gura themes but that song/music video was artsy as fuck and very good.

>>68291 I think the issue does in fact lie with her. That’s not an insult or a fig, but rather a statement of what I believe to be fact. I think Gura isn’t staying because Gura doesn’t believe she can. I don’t think that reflects objective reality, but that’s not what’s important. If she believes she can’t stay and be herself, then she can’t. That’s the long and short of it.

>>68442 (me) >fig *dig

>>67350 I think you're spot on. The boats probably represent management trying to block her from leaving/forcing her to stay.

>>68442 I agree with you, and I believe Gura would agree with you as well.

>>68591 Not Gura is verified on Twitter now.

>>68784 (me) Sorry, I didn’t mean to reply with that

>>68784 huh, interesting... I was sure she was gonna rebrand and add the new persona after the &., but she's getting verified, maybe she plans on staying with HER. At least she'll get a new model, she probably won't be able to use the Hinako Note girl and monetize it

>>68888 People know Sen. That’s really all she needs.

>>65063 she did not write it whatsoever albeit

>>68908 She said she trauma dumped to the songwriter and he wrote it based on what she told him.

>>68908 no shit retard, that doesnt change what I posted

her new orisong is genuinely a banger what the fuck

>>65834 [spoiler]For some reason even companies like Nijisanji are okay with this kind of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4ztXZTKQohA Maybe the rationale is that the ex-talent would be even more pissed and spiteful towards them if they restricted it.[/spoiler]

>>69946 >two years in the making Makes sense. Sounds about when everything went to shit.

>>70000 epic spoiler bro

>>70007 That was “uh oh,” wasn’t it? What happened then, really?

>>70033 How do you even spoiler text on 8chan?

>>70000 wasted get

>>70040 "uh oh" was posted in October 2022, a couple of months after the temmpiss civil war kicked off.

>>70040 We can't ever truly know. But that Halloween was also when Gura did her own thing at the same time the rest of HoloEN were doing a special Halloween event. So that's a thing. That was the first break. Something else broke while Promise were busy in Japan in 2023, and Fauna and Mumei were never the same after until their own graduations.

Kinda sucks knowing your favorite talent was doing nothing but suffer for the past 2 years

>>70056 Spoiler tags work normally I'm guessing the youtube link in the middle broke it. You can also use double asterisk at the beginning and end like this

>>70208 That's probably a bit of a stretch. She went away precisely to not suffer. What sucks is that management, alongside the likes of Mori, Bae, Ame and Kronii destroyed something magical.

>>70208 She could’ve told us… hinted at it… something. So many people would have done anything they could to help, but we weren’t told how. That hurts most. It feels like this is my fault.

tourist here, just came by to say her new and last song is great. i cried a bit

Glad to see you all made it here for the most part

>>70306 The problem is there was nothing we could do with the way it was set up but make it worse and hasten her exit. Seems like she just didnt want to upset people. I've accepted everything but it still hurts.

You guys are here now? What gives? I thought all holo vt users went to the tower?

>>70420 Do you really think your average holo fan likes us very much right now? Most of them are gonna be all mad and goofy cause they are a bunch of number fags.

>>70429 I dunno. I was just wondering. Never cared much for the shark apart from some very rare collabs involving her. Anyway I hope you guys can work through this. I am sure she'll back in one form or another and it certainly will be better than whatever the fuck is going at cover

>>70505 I think its good lots of us are getting release finally. Its kind of rough to emotionally attach yourself to someone then watch them suffer while you can do nothing about it but rage online. I am sad so many of her fans are angry. I understand her. Seems like lots of them were Cover fans first. And I wont hate on holo members for this after but I wont exactly be friendly. Many of my current favorites are sure to age out soon on the JP side.