>>67927 This is absolutely a departure piece. I won’t say for sure that there’s a “fuck management” messaging to it, otherwise it would ever be released, but there is definitely a message about not enjoying being tied down by her own reputation. As much as we all told her that she didn’t have to be afraid to be herself, she was anyway, and she seems to have become resentful because of it (hence not wanting to stream), and this song expresses that.

>>68091 Not as it is, unless she went through a rebranding of sorts, or doing something else with her character (like a somewhat of a weird example but, Kiara coming out and saying Takamori was over, only for it to come back stronger than before. What died was the corpo ship, with Calli as the tsun and Kiara as the clingy, replace by something more natural and true to their real selves, with Kiara being the upfront one and Calli more on the mellow side)

>>68168 I think “I’m going to do my own thing” could have worked as a message within holo. It clearly means “I’m doing it own thing on my own” here, but if she chose to stay, the same sentiment could have applied to her backing down from being a company face, and instead saying “screw public image or whatever” and doing whatever the hell she wanted (within corpo guidelines, at least). There are ways to do that, as a few other talents have shown. Gura believed she couldn’t do that, though, and whether she was right or not, she made her decision a long time ago.

>>68202 it could have worked for sure, but I'm afraid Gura always had a lot of trouble speaking up her mind. Instead of doing something about it, she just shuts down and represses all that frustation inside. There are many clips of her talking about it. The one about the perms was brutal. Her talking about how she was able to speak up and ask for all these perms, only to be laughed at by management. I don't think it was a laugh of "we can't do that", but a much worse "oh, now you decide to speak up?". It came out as a surprise for them, as they weren't expecting her to change, ever. That alone might have been one of the interaction that made her completely shut down, her mind gobling game is very strong at that.

I'm kinda of too dumb and not checked in enough to gura themes but that song/music video was artsy as fuck and very good.

>>68291 I think the issue does in fact lie with her. That’s not an insult or a fig, but rather a statement of what I believe to be fact. I think Gura isn’t staying because Gura doesn’t believe she can. I don’t think that reflects objective reality, but that’s not what’s important. If she believes she can’t stay and be herself, then she can’t. That’s the long and short of it.

>>68442 (me) >fig *dig

>>67350 I think you're spot on. The boats probably represent management trying to block her from leaving/forcing her to stay.

>>68442 I agree with you, and I believe Gura would agree with you as well.

>>68591 Not Gura is verified on Twitter now.

>>68784 (me) Sorry, I didn’t mean to reply with that

>>68784 huh, interesting... I was sure she was gonna rebrand and add the new persona after the &., but she's getting verified, maybe she plans on staying with HER. At least she'll get a new model, she probably won't be able to use the Hinako Note girl and monetize it

>>68888 People know Sen. That’s really all she needs.

>>65063 she did not write it whatsoever albeit

>>68908 She said she trauma dumped to the songwriter and he wrote it based on what she told him.

>>68908 no shit retard, that doesnt change what I posted

her new orisong is genuinely a banger what the fuck

>>65834 [spoiler]For some reason even companies like Nijisanji are okay with this kind of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4ztXZTKQohA Maybe the rationale is that the ex-talent would be even more pissed and spiteful towards them if they restricted it.[/spoiler]

>>69946 >two years in the making Makes sense. Sounds about when everything went to shit.

>>70000 epic spoiler bro

>>70007 That was “uh oh,” wasn’t it? What happened then, really?

>>70033 How do you even spoiler text on 8chan?

>>70000 wasted get

>>70040 "uh oh" was posted in October 2022, a couple of months after the temmpiss civil war kicked off.

>>70040 We can't ever truly know. But that Halloween was also when Gura did her own thing at the same time the rest of HoloEN were doing a special Halloween event. So that's a thing. That was the first break. Something else broke while Promise were busy in Japan in 2023, and Fauna and Mumei were never the same after until their own graduations.

Kinda sucks knowing your favorite talent was doing nothing but suffer for the past 2 years

>>70056 Spoiler tags work normally I'm guessing the youtube link in the middle broke it. You can also use double asterisk at the beginning and end like this

>>70208 That's probably a bit of a stretch. She went away precisely to not suffer. What sucks is that management, alongside the likes of Mori, Bae, Ame and Kronii destroyed something magical.

>>70208 She could’ve told us… hinted at it… something. So many people would have done anything they could to help, but we weren’t told how. That hurts most. It feels like this is my fault.

tourist here, just came by to say her new and last song is great. i cried a bit

Glad to see you all made it here for the most part

>>70306 The problem is there was nothing we could do with the way it was set up but make it worse and hasten her exit. Seems like she just didnt want to upset people. I've accepted everything but it still hurts.

You guys are here now? What gives? I thought all holo vt users went to the tower?

>>70420 Do you really think your average holo fan likes us very much right now? Most of them are gonna be all mad and goofy cause they are a bunch of number fags.

>>70429 I dunno. I was just wondering. Never cared much for the shark apart from some very rare collabs involving her. Anyway I hope you guys can work through this. I am sure she'll back in one form or another and it certainly will be better than whatever the fuck is going at cover

>>70505 I think its good lots of us are getting release finally. Its kind of rough to emotionally attach yourself to someone then watch them suffer while you can do nothing about it but rage online. I am sad so many of her fans are angry. I understand her. Seems like lots of them were Cover fans first. And I wont hate on holo members for this after but I wont exactly be friendly. Many of my current favorites are sure to age out soon on the JP side.