>>1089285 They already announced that Switch 1 games run better without dedicated patches. https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-16-nintendo-switch-2-part-4/ https://archive.ph/sY8BI >You mentioned that new technology is used to achieve compatibility, but are there situations where playing Switch games on Switch 2 will enhance the gameplay experience? >Dohta: When we tried running Switch games on Switch 2, there were some where loading times became faster, or game performance became more stable, so we realized that the overall gameplay experience could improve. The basic reason for this is that they're using something an compatibility/translation layer instead of plain emulation (which would require much higher resources) or native BC. In this scenario, the "emulated" system is granted additional processing power, so reduced loading times and stabilized performance are in fact possible. It's probably way better than using parts of the old hardware in it anyway, as you'll get improved performance instead of the same mediocre performance that plagued certain games. Also, all first-party games are backwards compatible with the sole exceptions of titles that can work on the new console but absolutely require the OG Joycon (and not the Joy-Con 2 controllers included with Nintendo Switch 2) in order to play >1-2 Switch and its sequel >Ring Fit Adventure >Labo >Game Builder Garage >Nintendo Switch Sports >WarioWare: Move It! In case of third-parties, Nintendo is actively doing compatibility tests with the partnership help of the respective studios. But since there is a massive amount of games present on the market and Eshop, it's a challenging task so they only confirmed a 20% without any flaws and somewhere around 5% of titles with issues. Nintendo does seem to care enough for third-parties to work on the BC, according to the pdf files, which even include niche titles like Senran Kagura Reflections, licensed Touhou fangames, Nippon Ichi Software titles amongst others. https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/ That is said, I don't expect Nintendo to care about the actual shovelware polluting the Eshop, the likes of Hentai AI Girls or whatever Unity rejects. Hence the previous disclaimer.

So you guys getting a Switch 2 or nah.

So it seems that the Switch 2 upgrade packs for BotW and TotK will come included with the NSO expansion pack subscription. Guess I won't have to get those since I already had that for the purpose of renting ROMs I'll never truly own.

>>1091657 Eventually, but not at launch since there's nothing that appeals to me. I have low expectations for Prime 4 as well considering most of the team left and 3 was worse than the first two. As pathetic as it sounds, it might be the new Pokemon game that I'll buy it for since Arceus is the only pokemon game I've enjoyed since Gen 5.

Would Splatoon 3 gain performance on the switch 2? Were there any games that ran better after going through a translation layer like wine or valves proton?

>>1091657 Definitely, even if I plan to use it to play the Switch 1 games for the moment, including the ones I've played before, with the backwards compatibility feature to see how far the improvements go. Yakuza/Ryu Ga Gotoku Zero Director's Cut would be my launch title on the Switch 2 even if it's a game I've played a few times previously. Followed by Raidou Devil Summoner, Elden Ring, Metroid Prime 4, Donkey Kong Bananza, Ys X Proud Nordics, Elden Ring, Daemon X Machina and the Zelda Musou amongst the 2025 releases. >>1091797 The upgrade packs are available separately, at least on the Japanese Eshop. I assume the equivalent in EU and NA would be 10 bucks for the Zelda packs, and 20 bucks for Kirby. >>1094754 >Would Splatoon 3 gain performance on the switch 2? I assume so but what would be nice is to include the joycon mice support through a free patch, like Nintendo has announced for several other titles so far.

>>1028605 Looking forward to Raidou, myself. Bananza and Air Riders also seem fun, but I may not be able to get the Switch 2 immediately so Raidou is certain. I liked the original, despite the battling being pretty bad, but they're improving it.

https://www.nintendo.com/jp/hardware/switch2/compatibility/index.html Just pointing out Nintendo has updated the compatibility page, as of April 16th (old graph was from April 1st) with a new update scheduled in May. The Japanese website is also a lot clearer and more quick to the uptake, unlike the other ones that are maintained and organized by the localization branches independently

http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/85579 >From the latest issue of Famitsu >“Street Fighter 6” >Producer: Shuhei Matsumoto >Supports local communication. No lag and fairly high quality >Of course, 60fps >“Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S” >Producer: Mizuki Hosoyamada >There is a mode where another player can lecture by using mouse control >Elements utilizing the Switch 2 features not yet revealed >“RAIDOU Remaster” >Development itself is relatively easy. Developers who have developed on Switch can make a smooth transition. >Switch 2 version has cleaner visuals and faster loading speeds. >Full HD and 60 fps in both TV and portable modes. >“Ryu ga Gotoku 0” >Producer: Makoto Suzuki >All additional scenes recorded amounts to a total of 26 minutes. >TV mode supports 4K output. The portable mode is amazingly beautiful. >The production was focused on 60 fps. Also looking back to videos, I've finally noticed the handheld screen of the Switch 2 is very sharp and clear despite being filmed in bright rooms. If that means it can be used outdoors a lot more easily, I'm all for it.

>>1109963 Oh wow half an hour extra for Y0? I wonder where specifically that falls into

>>1109963 >Full HD and 60 fps in both TV and portable modes. That's an odd choice, why not increase the resolution for docked mode if the game can already hit that level of performance in the handheld mode?

I think Nintendo forgot their main buyers are children and families. what parents are going to fork up 500$ for Mario kart in this economy?

Are preorders open yet?

>>1116066 Not in the US, no. Some other countries got to pre-order already.

>>1116039 Children play fortnight and gacha games these days. Only 30+ year old play mario kart seriously.

>>1115975 >テレビモードも携帯モードもフルHDで６０ｆｐｓ Could be something omitted from the blog but the way it is phrased, TV mode is also 1080p though I may assume it does support 4K as well. >>1116039 >I think Nintendo forgot their main buyers are children and families. According to who? Nintendo targets pretty much everyone. And you could already the argument of the original Switch being pretty 'expensive' (300€ or its equivalent in yen at 35,000) back in 2017. The large bulk of buyers also tend to happen around the second or third year in the console's lifespan.

Do you think we'll ever get Switch 2 emulators up and running? The PS4 emulators are barely even stable and that platform has been out for years.

>>1127919 You won't likely see Switch2 emulation anytime soon because >Nintendo got rid of RyujinX and Yuzu devs - who were familiar with their hardware, with Yuzu having experience in 3DS - but there is an argument to be made about how the emulation scene has been poorly handled by both the devs and users on the Internet >The Tegra chip inside the Switch 1 was well documented beforehand, which made developing around it a lot easier - The same can't be said about the new Switch architecture >Nintendo making big architecture changes also means that currently existing Switch emulation can't be used as a reference point for new developers effectively >Softwares being more and more tied to proprietary licenses make it extremely tricky for emulation to happen at all in legal terms - you may have to break the law/rules in order to make emulation possible and that's how they will get you People will have to start from zero, if you find them in the first place. Switch 1 emulators showed up a few months after the console came out, but here I can see it taking many many years before someone comes up with something. If anything to avoid a legal banhammer as well as modern Internet users too stupid to comprehend the notion of low-profile (and indirectly sabotage the whole thing), the devs will work in the shadows and upload it once it's overall stable rather than constantly updating the emulator in public.

>>1128062 Sucks to hear that. Sounds like nintendo is really working overtime for those $80

>>1128127 I mean the whole idea of unlicensed emulation being a gateway for console game piracy is not exactly a secret, and I think many Internet users got way too cocky during the Switch 1 emulation by taunting Nintendo in broad daylight (especially with Zelda Tears of Kingdom - online users complained the same about its MSRP iirc) and parroting the Bleem case like a protection chant right afterwards. These same people essentially handed over most of the job for Nintendo to catch wind of it and take legal action with proofs of involved piracy.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/nintendo-maintains-nintendo-switch-2-pricing-retail-pre-orders-to-begin-april-24-in-u-s/ Preorders April 24. Console price is the unchanged. All accessories, though, have seen a price increase.

Probably get a pre-order switch 2. Mario kart world and DK looks neat, been waiting for metroid prime 4 for years, and it's way past time for some new joycons anyway.

>>1128346 I mean, I played the leaked TotK for 10 days before the actual release date. It was broken as fuck. I had to manually save every half hour because it had a tendency to crash. Cutscenes and audio did not match at all. You couldn't explore the Depths either because that place had invisible textures everywhere. These problems were fixed by Ryujinx in real time within days (Yuzu sucked balls). But that's where they fucked up. They were caught fixing an unreleased game that you could only play by pirating it. This ammo is what nintendo's lawyers used to takedown both Ryujinx and Yuzu half a year later.

mario kart seems cool but I'm not spending 500 eurodollars on it

>>1127919 >PS4 I think that has more to do with a lack of interest than anything. What are you emulating for, bloodborne? That's about it. Same reason emulators for 7th gen+ Sony and MS consoles are in such poor states. People actually have motivation to make Nintendo emulators. But I think Nintendo has spooked a lot of people off with their recent successes, I agree that it will be some years before anyone sees an emulator worth using.

>>1127919 Well yeah, there's really no reason to make emulators of other systems when pretty much every game on them is available on pc too. You get a playstation or xbox because you like the company, you get a nintendo because its the only way to play the latest pookiman or mario games. The funniest shit is how many people act like they don't like any games nintendo makes while simultaneously bragging to anyone in earshot about how they played all those games on their pc.

>>1029002 >>1028628 The real issue is the menu design is still bad.

>>1134251 My biggest issue too. It's just as lifeless as the Switch. It really was just Iwata and Reggie keeping the character around.

My fellow Americans rejoice! Gamestop announced pre-orders begin next Thursday, April 24 with a midnight launch party at most locations. Best Buy is also doing the same. Unfortunately I noticed on Nintendo's official online store that, while they were able to keep the Switch 2 console prices the same as before, it looks like they're offsetting the tariff costs by increasing the prices on most of the accessories by about $5 each. It's also missing the individual Joy Con 2 SKUs from last week, so who knows what's going to happen there.

>>1091657 To play my switch 1 games yes, My switch 1 is overheating and is a launch model. I'm not interested in overpriced mario kart and gay dk though.

>>1142857 >is a launch model. Mine too. It doesn't overheat, but the joycons are shot and frequently disconnect and have drift issues. Access to switch 2 games, BC with switch 1 games, get a new set of joycons and should be able to run many switch 1 games better just because of the better hardware. Honestly could do a lot worse for the price. I mean, when the switch 1 came out you had to start your library from scratch.

>>1143340 >Honestly could do a lot worse for the price. >I mean, when the switch 1 came out you had to start your library from scratch. I mean it's just Mario Kart that is expensive right now but yes it was a lot worse going from wiiu to switch, there were many wiiu games being remastered.

I gathered at least the games that I would like to replay with the Switch2 BC, to check how far the improvements go. If the shortened loading times are true as the dev interview claimed, it'll be worth to see on certain titles like Taiko Tatsujin (first boot), Resident Evil 0 (everytime you change areas - hopefully it becomes instant enough so you no longer see the blood splatters), W40k Boltgun (when loading up a level the first time) and Little Nightmares 1 (everytime you die).

>>1122580 Primary audience for most gacha games is more young adults (15 - 25 age range) than kids. There's a reason the most successful games in the genre are stuff like Genshin Impact. >>1091657 Got mine preordered (UK here, via Nintendo Store). Got the Switch 2 + Mario Kart bundle, will be getting Bravely Default and depending on how much it costs, I'm considering Cyberpunk. Day 1 with MK, BD, the Gamecube games etc. should be fun. I'm also really hoping that Pokemon Scarlet and Violet performance patch is day one cause I am so curious what that game will be like that way. >>1144985 I should do this too, I've got a backlog of Switch games I didn't finish.

>>1132937 Og Xbox had some good exclusives, and although with time some were ported, others still remain. Yet Emulation for it is still awful to this day.

>>1028605 I feel that the Switch 2 will be a success even with the high prices and tariffs, I mean, it's Nintendo, it's a sequel to one of the most successful consoles ever, which will likely surpass the PS2 soon, and with Nintendo combining their handheld and console markets I doubt we'll ever see Wii U numbers from them ever again. I just hope the success of the Switch 2 motivates Sony to properly give us a PS Vita successor, or to invest even more on remote play, since it's the only way I can see them making their PS5, and eventually PS6, portable despite being so powerful, maybe we could get a cheaper PS Portal, or have it come bundled with the console, or maybe a telescopic controller for smartphones that actually follows the PS button layout for once, it'd be fun.