AMD is just straight up better than Intel in general as far as principles go AMD should be fine, and its not like you have any other options for CPUs besides them and Intel, so just go with them.

>>5751 AMD slaps their version of IME on the mobo and calls it the PSP, several desktop motherboards allow disabling it in the uefi menu. You'll have to look at individual laptops for this feature, but I know as far as desktops go, asus and my own asrock have it, but not all models do. AMD sucks china's cock when they banned certain vtuber guest speakers over Taiwan, Intel is literally NASA, but as far as performance goes, AMD is a solid pick regardless of if you can find one with a PSP disable toggle.

Both are cancer, but more work has been put into neutralizing IME using Coreboot. Look at the Pureism laptops that have Coreboot already installed and ME stripped out, else check the Coreboot site for whatever Thinkpad has support and go from there,

intel: get spied on by usa and israel amd: get spied on by usa and china

>>5754 >its not like you have any other options for CPUs besides them and Intel https://www.raptorcs.com/content/base/products.html https://www.hardkernel.com/product/ https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Jetson-Nano-Developer-945-13541-0000-000/dp/B08J157LHH >those arent viable in 2021+ theyre better than a 10 year old chinkpad with trannyboot

ME is literally just a bios, amd has its own version but its identical, obviously the bios has full system and hardware access, its always been like this, thats literally what a fucking bios is every cpu for the past 20 years had their own bios, programmers used to even execute bios interrupt calls in assembly to do all kinds of things instead of dealing with the os or hardware, almost every graphical program abused 13h bios calls to write directly to the frambuffer instead of dealing with the absolute shit display drivers of the time everything you read about ME is an inside joke making fun of computer illiterate linux "gurus" that think they know computers but really only know program manuals and bash scripting

>>6049 Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>6049 providing an interface to allow painless management of computers from a network position that is easily exploitable is a lot different from just running code on hardware at a sufficient privilege level

Intel is a WEF partner, AMD is not Give your $ to Intel if youd like to own nothing and be happy

>>7912 Interesting.

amd has better privacy, better performance, and better prices anyone who insists that you buy intel in the current year is a certified retard who just a few years ago was arguing that "nobody needs more than 4 cores" and that "14nm is good enough"

Was using an old incel cope i7-3770 machine for years and finally upgraded to one with an ayymd ryzen 5600x recently, gotta say I couldn't be happier.

>>9183 >certified retard who just a few years ago was arguing that "nobody needs more than 4 cores" and that "14nm is good enough" But both of those statements would have been true, if they were said "a few years ago." Maybe if someone said "you will NEVER need more than 4 cores" then I'd agree they were retarded.

>>9209 >maybe if I move the goalposts again they won't notice this time

>>9214 Your schizo is showing

>>9209 Anon, I remember back in 2014 when people were angry about 64-bit processors coming to smartphones because phones, "just don't need them." When people make these kind of statements, they don't just mean for now, they do indeed mean forever.

>>9225 That and the intel shills where pushing the "you only need 4 cores" claim for a literal decade straight, and the "14nm is good enough" for nearly half as long.

>>9225 >When people make these kind of statements, they don't just mean for now, they do indeed mean forever. Perhaps you are correct. I am autistic and take everything literally and at face value.

>>9229 >"you only need 4 cores" I'd argue it's still correct for most people. Keep in mind the many normies don't even have PCs these days, they just have a smartphone and maybe a tablet. And that's just counting first-worlders. There are still billions of people surviving with literally zero cores.

>>9264 For most turbonormies who literally only browse facebook and youtube, sure. But anyone who likes to play games or use any sort of creative software will greatly benefit from more. Still doesn't excuse intels decade long stagnation.

>>9307 >anyone who likes to play games [...] will greatly benefit from more. M dad plays a lot of Quake 3, how many cores does he need?

>>9319 >*anyone who plays anything other than 20 year old boomer shooters will greatly benefit from more Better?

>>9326 What's the wecommended amount of dedotated cores I should have to a Minecraft?

>>9330 java is really heavy so as many as you can get

>>9347 >java is really heavy my old pentium 2 dell with 128mb ram had no problem running java games such as runescape

>>9225 The world would be a better place if there were no phones with a 64 bit processor.

>>9350 they asked about minecraft retard

>>9387 >they asked about minecraft retard I wrote >>9319 >>9330 and >>9350 my statement is still correct, runescape is a java game and it is not heavy therefore you were wrong and a faggot

>>9389 minecraft is a java game and considerably heavy most java games are considerably heavier than games written in other languages you are a retard

>>9401 >most java games are considerably heavier than games written in other languages that's pajeet and soydevs' fault, not java itself. Vid related proves you are just objectively wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9vM-YJuKI

>>9368 How/why?

>>5754 >AMD is just straight up better than Intel in general as far as principles go It's not so simple. Go to Trisquel forums and they will steer you to Intel graphics, because modern AMD graphics require binary blob firmwares to operate.

>>9564 >How/why? I'm a different anon but I'm guessing because fast smartphones are what empowers normie dipshits to pollute the internet with their tiktok dances etc. The world was better when only high IQ white nerds on desktop PCs had access to the internet.

incestuous incels :^)

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>>6049 I can see your nose from here.

>>6049 Nice copy pasta anon, truly the 57th time is the charm...

>>5751 I wouldn't really care if I were you. I'd care more about how much money I'm dumping in to it and if I can switch out parts or if it's all just a permanent hellscape. That being said, I don't do heavy computation on my cocktop and the recent ryzen line has been pretty comparatively smooth and cool in my exprience. I'd rather get the battery life, low noise, and integrated video bus since it's really just a glorified terminal.

>>9844 >Nice copy pasta anon this ones better imo American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Eddie Murphy while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers

>>9585 >I'm a different anon but I'm guessing because fast smartphones are what empowers normie dipshits to pollute the internet with their tiktok dances etc. The world was better when only high IQ white nerds on desktop PCs had access to the internet. I agree with you the internet now sucks it just lures people to look at useless shit for dopamine and to harvest money through ads but here I get what I want privately I feel more fulfilled surfing the dark web ignoring the pedophile and drugs ,images of dead bodies I get annoyed by this shit especially pedophiles those degenerate piece of shit but I got used to ignore as this is the free net so whatever

>>10744 >I agree with you the internet now sucks it just lures people to look at useless shit for dopamine and to harvest money through ads I suspect things will change again in the coming decades. The West is collapsing, people will not have disposable income. Playing with electronics will be seen as a waste of time by the average normie who has to work 80 hours a week for a subsistence lifestyle, if they are lucky enough to find a job at all. The silver lining is this will act like chemotherapy for the West. A lot of trash will be filtered, either through suicide or inceldom. You might be surprised at who the actual incels are during tough times. There are a lot of fit, "attractive" but lazy and stupid young men out there who only get laid because their gibs and diversity hire careers disguise what they really are: bums. They won't get pussy any more once they are starving and homeless like nature intended. The cream will rise to the top again.

Do not trust any amd64 hardware made after the late 1990s under any circumstance. The only hardware that you can trust at all are architectures like loongson and so on, unfortunetly those have gotten very expensive, so this is not an option for the average Anon. Even librebooted thinkpads still have un-free firmware in them. Sure it's much better than hardware with the ME enabled, but it's not optimal, the same way having a girlfriend that is 0.1% cheating on you would feel still wrong. Do not make the mistake of buying old hardware (pre-2008), because supposedly there is no IME. It had a different name and was integrated differently, but it was still there. Ironically AMD is even worse in that regard, because there are much less resources on disabling the PSP and similar vulnerbilities and it's nearly impossible to practically do so (Correct me if I am wrong and you actually run a machine with the PSP disabled, I would be very interested).

>>5755 I do not trust the diabling option, I am sure it still runs, even after diabling it in the bios.

>>10825 >Even librebooted thinkpads still have un-free firmware in them for example?

>>10826 >I do not trust the diabling option, I am sure it still runs, even after diabling it in the bios. There are methods to find out for sure. Even with a black box device you can still measure its inputs and outputs (ie reverse engineering)

>>10840 https://libreboot.org/faq.html#what-other-firmware-exists-outside-of-libreboot Here is a list of un-free, poentially malicious firmware in librebooted devices.

>>5751 If money is not an issue, you can always go modular framework: https://frame.work/ I prefer AMD, I used to have a real reason for it, but not so much anymore. All companies are pretty much the same now. It's the Orwellian illusion of choice more than anything else. Those who like a cheap good laptop, students and such, I'm gonna get hate from this, but BUY AN OLD MACBOOK AIR I know it's crazy, but those are very good quality, and really cheap, because of manufactured obsolescence. Buy one for about 100-150€, and install what ever OS you want. Seriously, it's the best bang and pop for your money, just stay away from the OSX and (Windows?). REcommending Kubuntu.

>>6046 I'll go with the spies that don't own my country.

>>9585 Agreed

>>10725 Agreed

>>10825 You can disable the PSP in bios because itcs on the mobo, I'm sure someone audited if its actually off.

>>14491 >Trump won. And will win again.

>>5755 >>14657 This doesn't disable it just makes it appear off. You can read the libreboot page on this or use your brain and realize the PSP is required for cpu bring up so obviously it can't be disabled.

>>16431 Over three years and still getting replies. lol

>>15703 >And will win again. This actually aged well!

>>16859 hooray, the zionists defeated the marxists.

>>5779 >Look at the Pureism laptops that have Coreboot already installed and ME stripped out Convince me Purism isnt a honeypot and they dont let the NSA bug your laptop

>>6059 No mater where you turn, (((they))) are always in the way.

>>16861 this but unironically

>>17035 excited for noahide laws? you know that means worshipping jesus = beheading?

>>5751 if you concerned about it then take a cpu without intern gpu

Any cbuds using risc-v here?