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The final solution of the document problem. Anonymous 10/31/2022 (Mon) 23:59:25 No. 10458

What is the final document format? Not text file (unformatted). I am asking for formatted text document, with tables and embedded images. What is the final solution? Proposals: -ODF (.odt) -Rich Text Format (.rtf) -HTML -DOC (.doc) -DOCX Considerations: -is the format simple, efficient, small? -is it open source, free, or at least without patents or some other shit -is it supported by large amount of software? for import and export -is it malware? has hidden metadata and other shit? complex and proprietary? -does the format allow for huge documents? -what the format supports? formatted text, embedded fonts, images, tables, embedded files, hyperlinks, what else? -is it simple to open both for viewing and editing? -are the editors of the format small efficient or bloated and buggy?

Anonymous 11/01/2022 (Tue) 00:01:38 No. 10459

PDF is rejected because it's only export format, not intended for editing. Wait... but it is possible to edit it, in LibreOffice Draw. So should be considered too? But on operating systems like DOS, FreeDOS it will be only possible to view PDF, not edit it. I need multi platform support.

Anonymous 11/01/2022 (Tue) 23:41:02 No. 10479

Use LaTeX for math and large documents (and if you need more advanced/complex features). RTF is okay if you need to share simple text documents with people who have M$ Windows. For taking notes, you should use org-mode or markdown (and you can convert these to HTML, if you want to).

Anonymous 11/02/2022 (Wed) 20:39:59 No. 10487

.docx for wageslaves .odt for free men

Anonymous 11/03/2022 (Thu) 02:15:14 No. 10494

>>10459 >on operating systems like DOS, FreeDOS Other than some niche retro stuff, I doubt more than a handful of people uses that as a daily driver.

Anonymous 01/07/2023 (Sat) 15:27:15 No. 11180

My vote is for RTF. ~99% of Windows PCs have WordPad installed. On Linux you can edit RTF with LibreOffice. For every document I've made (resumes, lists, essays) RTF had a smaller filesize than either DOCX or ODT. It has powerful enough formatting for most normie needs.

Anonymous 01/18/2023 (Wed) 17:12:44 No. 11288

The final format is no format: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=309 >is the format simple, efficient, small? Nothing could be simpler, and it's as efficient as you make it. >is it open source, free, or at least without patents or some other shit? The source is an inherent part of the format >is it supported by large amount of software? for import and export? Supportable by anything that runs on the same architecture >is it malware? has hidden metadata and other shit? complex and proprietary? All data is explicit >does the format allow for huge documents? All the way to the halting problem. >what the format supports? formatted text, embedded fonts, images, tables, embedded files, hyperlinks, what else? Anything your turing machine can do >is it simple to open both for viewing and editing? Could anything be simpler than spooling up a virtual process, pointing it at the first record, and telling it to keep going? >are the editors of the format small efficient or bloated and buggy? Vi-editable (or emacs, I'm agnostic) couldn't get more efficient.

Anonymous 02/23/2023 (Thu) 23:57:35 No. 11648

RTF for writing and formatting. PDF for sending document to whoever needs it.

Anonymous 05/08/2023 (Mon) 03:56:55 No. 12104

>>10458 Make everything a database, especially to dispel excel codemonkeys.

Anonymous 05/27/2023 (Sat) 01:53:04 No. 12217

>>10458 Remember when ISO was going to make OpenDocument the only standard document format, but Microsoft bribed and bullied members to prevent that? https://archive.is/LJqH7 https://archive.is/iKbox

Anonymous 06/17/2023 (Sat) 19:13:35 No. 12347

>>10458

Anonymous 06/18/2023 (Sun) 05:00:29 No. 12359

>>10458 > formatted text document, with tables and embedded images. > -is the format simple, efficient, small? YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE

Anonymous 09/28/2023 (Thu) 05:31:08 No. 13225

>>11288 >t. based niggerbrained Bangalore-politechnic mathematician The suggestion of a file format analogous toa tape that describes itself is not new, it would be any .exe file, perhaps assuming batch files and such instructions could be coded in a more compact manner. This is obviously not a new idea, nor an untested idea, however, parsing an .exe file for instance, compared to any other format takes more processing power and is often on itself a "black box" because we don't know what's inside until we open it, which is obviously not convenient. >muh uncommon novelty opinion >muh boomer RSA encryptiun le couppled with brain-interfacr Intelligence Amplifiers TOTAL NIGGER DEATH O T A L N I G G E R D E A T H

Anonymous 03/20/2025 (Thu) 12:01:25 No. 17413

Write your documents in processable formats like .org or .md, then convert them to whatever else you might need (document formats, PDF and PostScript, images, etc) as you need. It's especially effective when you write scripts that follow the same formatting and style each time, so you do not need to re-add the same page number footers or something every time.

Anonymous 04/07/2025 (Mon) 19:10:12 No. 17607

>>10458 very large documents, especially anything requiring sophisticated formatting or equations, should be latex to preserve your sanity WYSIWYG editors like word and the document formats they generate are best as just stopgaps for shorter documents or for people who don't want to learn something more technical for what they're doing or do know and just don't want to bother as an emacs user i use org-mode for the vast majority of my documents, notes, and even some small-size spreadsheet-like stuff.

Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 15:49:52 No. 17613

>>10459 >Wait... but it is possible to edit it, in LibreOffice Draw All it does is reverse engineer the file, some things work but others get fucked in the process of editing

Anonymous 04/08/2025 (Tue) 18:19:41 No. 17614

RTF next question

Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 02:56:47 No. 18325

>formatted text >tables >embedded images .tex solved this problem long ago.

Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 04:14:12 No. 18345

Styling is for queers. Type it up in vim with a max character length and print it

Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 05:26:06 No. 18368

typst, it is open source and written in rust

Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 05:38:34 No. 18373

libre math is much faster to write than latex its pretty neat for when I need to do homework or take notes

Anonymous 04/20/2025 (Sun) 07:02:47 No. 18396

Use orgmode documents.

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