>How do you feel about former libertarians going full authoritarian right-wing? I don't care. >What are some good arguments against those kinds of ideologies being the best ones? How do you judge ideologies? Values.

>>5531 >How do you feel about former libertarians going full authoritarian right-wing? It sucks but they were retards who follow the popular trends instead of thinking for themselves and having principles. >What are some good arguments against those kinds of ideologies being the best ones? History and reality, we can see how authoritarian ideologies suck dick simply by observing how they fare today and how they did in the past (They almost always lost against less authoritarian ideologies or collapsed on their own)

The opposite happened to me relatively recently. I was a national socialist fascist type for the past few years but then I realized how much big government sucks after witnessing all the censorship, overreach, and bureaucracy that comes with it. I never cared much for economic systems when I was NS, but after reading about Austrian thinkers and listening to speeches given by Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, etc., it's pretty plain to see that a laissez-faire economic system is the most efficient. I already had a general distrust of (((central banking))) so the anti-fedpill wasn't hard to swallow. Anarcho-capitalism is essentially the natural endpoint of a completely free market and I couldn't think of anything the state provides that a private institution couldn't do better.

>>5531 Sorry, my old gamergate anons. I turned out into libertarian nationalist and compromised the purity of values and principles with pragmaticism and accelerationism to cope from how badly beat we got. The worst part is that I achieve extremely significant political success similar anons through the methods that our political rivals used (abusing institutions, using underhanded methods, using freedom as an opportunity to subvert and destroy the opposition). I yet still yearn for that freedom we all wanted back then in idealistic times, but the times are desperate as they continued to reduce us.

>2023 post >Getting posts now Well I'm happy that /liberty/ is back, generally I fucking hate it. I think that the rise of authoritarianism on both sides is fucking shit and things were better when imageboards were more libertarian

>>5563 Politics is low-time preference, so that's to be expected. Plus, Hoppeanism explicitly enables some degree of self-defense from non-aggressive individuals through the application of absolute self-ownership. I think a big problem libertarians have had for a while is in this "the lesser evil is still evil" mindset. Same mindset behind the border drama. You can't get open borders through the state, but closed borders will at least reduce the number of people being screwed over by the state, especially when it's a welfare state like what we have now. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with not ruling out politics as a potential avenue for success, but I hope you keep your eyes open for over options, too. <t. Newfag, so take my words with a grain of salt.