/liberty/ - Automation and A.I. in the next 20-30 years is going to result in a massive radical transformation and many jobs will be lost but new ones will be created in other sectors. Massive reductions in the cost of products and services like food and transportati

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Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 13:09:48 Id: e882dc No. 1885

Automation and A.I. in the next 20-30 years is going to result in a massive radical transformation and many jobs will be lost but new ones will be created in other sectors. Massive reductions in the cost of products and services like food and transportation are going to occur.

After this transformation happens and prices for consumers comes down, living standards are going to increase, right? People would supposedly have much more disposable income, right?

We all know healthcare, college and housing are artificially expensive due to government intervention, and these costs will continue to rise.

My question is, are the increased costs of healthcare, tuition and housing going to keep increasing which will NEGATE any benefits of this automation?

In the future in America are healthcare/tuition costs in the typical american's budget going to be the largest expense people have to pay for because the costs have been so artificially inflated by government intervention?
Imagine if food and transportation is insanely cheap but health insurance costs a fortune for everybody.

I really hate that the government intervenes in these sectors, it makes it look like "the free market" is responsible for these high prices, this myth won't go away. We need to solve these problems before it's too late.

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 13:11:00 Id: e882dc No. 1886

also this

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 15:43:10 Id: 174ce2 No. 1887

>>1885
>Automation and A.I. in the next 20-30 years is going to result in a massive radical transformation and many jobs will be lost
That shit always gets thrown around but for the most part it's just a buzzword that makes people think that skynet is going to flip their burgers.
As it stands our robotics and agents are very much specialists in what they do, meaning that it requires formulating an exact niche that say a robot is going to do, then pretty much purpose building it to that spec in hard and software. It takes a tremendous amount of work to go from "like let it drive trucks maaaan" to an actual product which can reasonable do something and at that point you have to ask yourself about the costs of implementing and maintining a robot compared to employing someone.
In essence we evolved to be a good arbitrary function fitting machine that throws out lots of stuff to "hardcoded" subsystems in order to even manage the scarce resources we have to work with which to me implies that any AGI on the level of a human will either cost you an arm and a leg in energy alone or tell you to fuck off because it wants leisure time too.

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 16:39:49 Id: 1bf875 No. 1888

Something about the medical apps from Google and Apple and the disappearence of medical jobs?

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 17:01:56 Id: 4b096c No. 1889

>>1885
Any innovation that decreases the input costs of production will result in an increase in disposable income and a net increase in employment.

>My question is, are the increased costs of healthcare, tuition and housing going to keep increasing which will NEGATE any benefits of this automation?
Who knows? Central planning is fake and gay, so questions like this can't be answered in any meaningful way. Maybe the gains in technology and market processes will outpace state regulation, maybe it won't. The question of which effect will be greater is purely speculative, and its answer has no effect on policy prescription--innovation should still be allowed and intervention should still be discouraged, in either case--so there are no productive gains in hypothesizing over it.

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 17:58:36 Id: 5f1fb8 No. 1891

>>1885
There's only so much physical land on the planet. The living standards in Africa increased over the past 100 years and look at the problems it has caused.

Anonymous 02/11/2020 (Tue) 23:43:17 No. 1892

Prices will come down somewhat, but job loss among blacks latinos and arabs will outpace it, especially as their population rapidly increases in proportion to the productive members of society. This will increase the tax burden on white men, pushing our poorest further into poverty and a cycle of despair and drug abuse. Essentially it will lead to greater inequality and more of a favela like society. As the proportion of society which is able to build and service automation tools decreases, and the majority of dead weight brown population who relies on technology they cannot even fathom increases things will look more like South Africa where the infrastructure is maintained by a minority on razor thin margins. Any power outage of failure will lead to massive riots and power grabs for more gibs.

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06/13/2020 (Sat) 22:57:38 Id: abfc6c No. 3086

>>1885 Healthcare will probably continue to rise in cost, but I have my doubts about tuition. It seems to me like more and more Americans are beginning to question whether college degrees are necessary for them or not. Corporations have started hiring without degrees, everyone seems to place hire value on experience rather than training or knowledge. My prediction is that save for people going into very specific fields, such as medical or engineering, there's going to be a slow but steady drop off in the number of people going to college in the coming years. Which in turn will force colleges to start cutting tuition if they wish to see them come back.

Anonymous 06/30/2020 (Tue) 22:54:31 Id: adddda No. 3214

>>3086 Yeah that seems likely. I remember when I was a senior in college and a lot of businesses were saying that they would hire based on experience and talent. Not so much on whether they had a degree.

Anonymous 11/19/2021 (Fri) 00:08:08 Id: 334f92 No. 4909

Our overlords don't even have a good reason for the nanny police state anymore. Toothpicks must be outlawed to protect the environment. Rope must be banned for safety. Baseball hats must be outlawed because they are ugly. Insurance must be mandatory to protect the insurance industry. Flagpoles must be banned to protect property values. Why not just put Americans in prison when they're born?

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