fast

slow

Best Knuckles

>>5683 No sir, I believe Red Sonic is best Knuckles. Does anyone have that old Archie pic with all the different Knuckles in it? I don't know where I put my copy.

>>5686 This one?

sonic is cool

storytime when

>>5687 Yes, precisely! Thanks.

>>5689 Issue comes out tomorrow, so we'll probably get it then. >>5690 Np!

>>5691 we usually get them the night before tho hell in the 4chan thread someone posted the final page

>>5692 Chances are, anon hasn't gotten the issue yet. I know there's times when someone would post snippets on other sites, so that person likely just got it from those places.

>>5692 As in, just the final page? Why spoil it for everyone? Good thing I stopped going there, they really don't seem to appreciate others.

>>5694 to be fair they hid it behind a spoiler tag

*Unsheathes Katana*

>>5696 W-what's he gonna do with that?

>>5695 Oh, ok, the way you made it sound it was just posted without warning. Post regarded then, my bad. But I hope it comes out on time by tomorrow so it can be shown in order.

>>5688 and fast too

>>5688 I want Sonic to do more cool things in the games

>>5700 It's been a while since Sonic's had a moment like the Unleashed intro, or him busting out of GUN's helicopter in SA2. Something on that level would be pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82_VjmELPBw this is kind of nice

>>5700 I wish Sonic was cooler in general.

What is everyone's synopsis of "cool"? I think Sonic just being a decent dude to hang out with is cool to me. Something like Goku. And maybe Robin from Teen Titans if he was to get more serious.

Hey remember when I said that the storytime wasn't coming until tomorrow? CHANGE OF PLANS

>>5707 >>5706 Huh. Neat. Guess I'll be the only one up to see it for myself.

>>5707 >>5708 Well the other anons will have something for when they wake up

>>5710 >Wisper giving Shadow the stickeye Welp. Looks like the anons of 4/sthg called it.

>>5713 And the big reveal to cap it all off. >>5714 It seems like Shadow also went off on his own. I wouldn't be surprised if she is just trying to keep an eye on him, or she's gonna try & kill him.

>>5715 First Mania Adventures Now this BAH, GIVE ME THE TRUE DESERVER OF SUPER. But nice reference to S3K all the same. Although short, thanks for sharing anon

>>5676 Has anyone here ever tried Pocky? What is it like?

>>5706 Rate this issue!

>>5720 Uhhh like 6/10 Fine issue but it's mostly just a build up to the next one. Nice bits of action and little moments like the card playing at least. Song lyrics are weak tier references but I still enjoy them.

>>5720 Solid 7 for me. It's an issue done for build, but the art & interactions are pretty nice, with a really cool moment at the end with Neo Metal turning Super. Looking forward to next month. >>5717 np, anon!

>>5715 Thanks for storytimimg anon

>>5718 Never tried pocky before, but it's apparently a chocolate-coated biscuit stick. Sounds pretty good, tbh

Yardley's art looks a lot nicer this issue than his other issues. Same with Herms' coloring. I hope this becomes the standard instead of it going back to how it looked in Issue 1 or 5. Those looked okay but this looks much better

>>5725 I'm not a fan of the style they were going for in the first few issues. Definitely a step down from the style Archie used to have in my opinion, that style was lovely and used to catch my eyes like few other things.

>>5718 They're alright, but I only remember actually enjoying the green tea and strawberry flavor

Bumb

>>5720 Probably a 7. Some nice interactions and a cool reveal.

>>5715 I hope Metal wins!

>>5731 Oh he'll win a trip to the recycling plant.

>>5734 At least Shadow has Omega

>>5732 >>5733 The only good Sonic is a Metal Sonic.

Sup dudes.

>>5736 Metal is just a fake robot

>>5736 >Implying

>>5739 Sonic is a fake hedgehog

>>5742 Shadow's an awful influence on people. A menace

>>5742 No! Bad Kirby.

Is Sonic's dick big or smol?

>>5740 The rugrats into theme played in my head while watching that.

>>5746 Tiny.

>>5741 Rude >>5740 I don't care how much sense it would or wouldn't make, I need Super Mecha vs. Super Neo Metal

Let the speculation begin! http://soahcity.com/2018/09/19/sonic-mania-team-currently-in-japan/

>>5753 I feel with how high SEGA has been on Mania and it's success, it only makes sense to lock these guys down for future projects. I bet they become a proper SEGA team.

>>5753 Ooh, that's nice. So here's hoping they are the new blood this franchise desperately needs to keep this ship sailing. Does 4/sthg/ know about this?

>>5755 Yeah. Personally, between the member of Mania Adventures team at SEGA's HQ & this, I fully expect us to get a Mania sequel & maybe a full-length cartoon with the MA team on it.

>>5720 A 7 or 8. I'd love to see Burning Blaze fight Super Metal next month. On that note, can we have a separate thread for the next issue? Storytime discussions get swept away in the generals, and the /co/ thread is fucking awful. >WAAAAAAH FIRE IAN FLYNN >WAAAAAAH WHERE'S SALLY >WAAAAAAH [plot hole that was explained in issue 3, but /co/mblr doesn't actually read comics]

Test. Is 8chan misbehaving for anyone else?

>>5757 I wouldn't mind making a separate thread for the next storytime. >WHERE'S SALLY I mean, I like Sally but didn't Ian already confirm the FFs weren't gonna be in Year One & it's up to SEGA if they can be used at all?

>>5757 >I wouldn't mind making a separate thread for the next storytime. >>WHERE'S SALLY >I mean, I like Sally but didn't Ian already confirm the FFs weren't gonna be in Year One & it's up to SEGA if they can be used at all?

>>5758 Yeah, the site is seemingly shitting itself. Accidentally caused me to double-post & everything.

I was having some posting issues a moment ago, yeah

>>5763 Well hopefully, it's gotten better. Anyways, more info on the movie:

>>5746 invisible

>>5753 Isn't Sonic Team's management in the US now? Who would they go meet with in Japan?

>>5766 I meant to embed this but the site is fucked.

>>5753 scared

>>5770 How come?

Is it back now?

>>5772 Seems like it. Seems we can't even escape from 4chan's moot powers here either.

https://youtu.be/fc_AYYzytcE Is this an edited version?

Boop

>>5775 These are nice

Holy shi I forgot yesterday was satam's 25th birthday!

>>5775 Cute stuff >>5777 To be fair, this year has a lot of anniversaries. 25th for Archie, CD & SatAM, 20th for Dreamcast & Adventure, etc.

>>5777 That's okay, I've never even watched SatAM

>>5759 IDW said it's a no on year 1. Ian has added saying it's up to SEGA to approve it or not. His current FAQ states that IDW Sonic is only using Modern Sonic and that there's no current plans to introduce any elements from the cartoons/old comics.

>notice of downtime >just as we were gaining more speed and posters I am upset. I guess this is going to mean a better site so there is some consolation, but still.

>>5781 Eh, we can always gain more speed & posters as long as we keep going. >>5779 SatAM was alright. It wasn't a mind-blowingly amazing series & it wasn't god-awful either. At least to me, opinions on it vary pretty heavily these days.

Currently reading IDW #7. Am I the only one that was pretty annoyed about the lack of backgrounds?

>>5783 >lack of backgrounds Huh, never noticed that. My only guess is that it was done to put more focus on the action or something. Or ABT just forgot to add them.

>>5784 It was probably because of the action, and I can understand the effect they were going for but every page is like this and it got a bit peeving.

>>5785 What is that?

>>5787 Amy lusting after Sonic, what else anon?

>>5788 I meant the link.

>>5789 A song in DDR

>>5789 Oh. Apparently, it's Dance Dance Revolution music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNgZymZX_M >>5774

>>5775 Nice stuff, anon.

>>5775 cute

slow night tonight

>>5795 Some anons are prolly sleeping. Like I'm about too night folks!

>>5796 good night anon have sweet sonic-related dream

stop

>>5676 I want to steal his Pocky. >>5798 I love Smash crossover art.

>>5800 Crossover art is nice in general.

Sonic

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1042793378750947328 >Game Grumps at Sega of Japan >Mania Team in Japan >New Sonic cartoon coming with Mania Adventures Team oh no

>>5803 I'm really starting to hate Aaron

>>5804 Only now? He's been doing stuff like that for a while, it's past the point of being just peeving for me.

>>5805 It didn't bother me at first. But after Forces and the whole "we wanted to design the game so you could boost like a maniac" and hearing some of Arin's criticism of Unleashed and Sonic 3&K and seemingly be a huge proponent of "boost2win/Sonic should be about going fast end nothing else", I'm starting to feel that critics like him are responsible for the awful design choices in the recent 3D Sonic games. Not to mention the attitude towards the franchise from outsiders. I hate seeing him get special treatment from Aaron when he might be somewhat responsible for state we're in. I'm probably overthinking and overexaggerating but still

>>5806 Although you are overexaggerating things, it's surprising it took Forces for you to realize this. The main reason we got Kishimoto as head director of Sonic Team was all thanks to him being part Sammy employee, but also because Colors was so positively praised after ~3 straight years of ~50 metascore Sonic games. That includes Unleashed. Why? Because the Critrics hate the Werehog into meme tier status, how it was "worse than all of 06". So thanks to that narritive push to support Kishimoto over the guy that made Chao Garden and other elements in SA2, we lost him out of the gaming industry and were left with Kishimoto. All thanks to critics being, well, overly critical because how much 06 killed the series. This is why I'm glad Taxman came in when he did, because SEGA only listens to e-celebs now, not the fans.

>>5804 I got why Aaron did at first since GG was popular around 2015-2016, but how many people care about them now? At least enough to warrant Webber constantly shill them?

>>5808 Their videos are still getting hundreds of thousands of views and their Sonic videos average more than most of their others

>>5809 I suppose, but has it really helped the series? At least in terms of increasing sales & whatnot

>>5810 Probably not, no. Mania only sold 1 million across 3 consoles and PC despite Aaron getting the Game Grumps involved with that cupcakes thing, getting the collector's edition from Aaron, and putting them in the credits. I highly doubt GG contributed to the sales at all. Same with Forces. If anything Sonic 06 probably got a boost on ebay from curious people wanting to try it out or do their own awful LP of it. Otherwise all the GG shilling is just Aaron trying to make the franchise look hip and self-aware.

>>5811 I'm honestly confused as to why Aaron keeps mentioning 06. I got nothing against Aaron, but the game was 12 years ago & all jokes about it that could be made has already been made a thousand times over. It's just beating a dead horse at this point.

IDW issue 10 cover. It's fucking gorgeous

>>5811 >>5812 That's likely the joke. You do knwo people still shit on that game for killing the series right? Until we get 10 years of straight 85+ games, Sonic will still get shit on, and blame in thanks to 06 "killing the series". It's not irrelevent until SEGA stops being a shit company towards Sonic.

>>5814 I don't see 06 as irrelevant or anything, but it gets tiresome after the 600th time it gets brought up. And it's not like bringing it up is making SEGA improve the series or anything.

>>5815 But it wouldn't matter regardless, IF, SEGA stop being shit. That game proved how little SEGA cares and the fact they themselves don't tell Aaron to stop this, proves this. He's making a point, that personally doesn't bothers me and I don't get why it does to others. Sonic being shit after S3K is the law in the community, whether you agree to this or not, which I don't, but it's what is pushed as truth. The only way to change is to make the change happen. This means, make consective good games. This only is what it is, because the series is shit right now. You shouldn't try to cover up the true, no matter how long ago it started from. And speaking of, hearing the news the TEAM of Sonic Mania, not just Taxman and Stealth assuming, is in Japan right now, I'm excited to believe SEGA is doing the right thing for once to make a change with the right kind of people making Sonic games.

>>5813 What is Tangle doing?

>>5816 >That game proved how little SEGA cares I'd say that game proved just how much SEGA cares about games meeting deadlines over the quality of the title. Hearing about the development history of that game honestly makes me surprised it came out the way it did. And yeah, even though Sonic has had well-received games long after 06, the general consensus many say is that the last good game was 3K before Mania came out. I don't even think Sonic is even close to the worst state it's ever been in, but they could use more consistency when it comes to quality titles. >>5817 Throwing her legs around

>>5813 is this the first time Rouge has been on a cover?

>>5819 i mean for IDW not all sonic coimcs

>>5819 She was on the issue 6 cover

SEGA & Atlus are doing some streams for TGS, including stuff for TSR. The first stream they're doing is gonna be on September 21st with Team Sonic Racing at 2:00 to 12:30 JST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLATaPSwJI And the September 22nd stream with Team Sonic Racing at 16:20 to 16:50 JST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67JqqNevf6A

>>5822 12:00 not 2:00

>>5823 Yeah, 12:00 sorry.

>>5822 I made a countdown for today's just in case someone doesn't know how to tell time. https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/justmarried?iso=20180921T12&p0=248&msg=TGS+Team+Sonic+Racing+stream&font=slab

>>5826 Much appreciated, anon. I'll probably play the streams when they start in the cytube.

>>5812 It worked at first given that it was unthinkable that Sega would ever touch upon 06, but since then it feels like they've ran out of fresh things to do so they still have to rely on 06 jokes. They are no longer a new account with few followers, and Sega may also be stricter on what they allow to be posted, so I imagine they have to play it much safer now than they did back then when they had nothing to lose, they didn't have over 5 million people reading what they posted, and when Sega didn't care so much.

>>5821 >>5813 these are nice

>>5813 Love how much attention Blaze is getting. At least the comics will keep her alive.

>>5816 What does /sthg/ think the Mania team would do if Sega proposed them to make a Modern game?

>>5832 I imagine it would be a pretty good game, especially if it's 2D. Could probably be like a Sonic Advance Mania, or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFRhRcL30Q >>5832 Well, if this hasn't been sent to over there by now, why not ask them? Right now I don't really care about them right now to see what they say, but go ahead and ask them. If anything, they'd likely make Sonic Mania: Advance. Hopefully, with this quality of art, if not hire this man to help the cause for good games.

>>5835 Oh, btw I thought you were talking about 4chan's /sthg/. I forget this is also called /sthg/ here sometimes.

>>5836 Oh, lol, I thought you meant to go ask the team directly.

>>5832 I would assume something like Advance. It'd be a neat idea, but Modern Sonic has too much 2D as it is.

>>5838 Correction, it has too much *bad* 2D. Yes, the console mainline games SHOULD be all 3D, but it wouldn't be as bad if it was just played better than Genesis/Advance era.

Metal Slug team working on the art for Sonic Mania 2 when?

>>5840 I'm curious: If Mania 2 has people besides Hesse doing the art for it, would would you like to see?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE_jYB6mM5s What do you think of Crush 40's non Sonic songs? What's your favorite one?

>>5842 I like Revvin Up

>>5841 No memefaces. It's okay for cartoony expressions since animation is a visual medium but Mania Adventures was pushing it. I'd rather not have that in Mania 2

>>5844 Sorry just testing image limit.

>>5842 Revvin' Up is pretty good. It's the type of thing I can easily hear in a Sonic title. And hearing it in the Bumper Engine made me fall in love with it. >>5846 Cutest gals

>>5842 Into the WInd is also pretty good. It's not very Sonicy but it's nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGTxpujF8W8 >>5849

Why not let Hardlight make a mainline game?

>>5851 I'm not really familiar with Hardlight, what games have they made?

>>5851 redpill me on hardlight

>>5851 God no, what's wrong with you? >>5852 The mobile games: Sonic Dash and derivatives.

>>5854 Hmm. Have they had experience making home console games, or they're just mobile stuff?

>>5855 I think they're just a mobile studio.

>>5841 As in who's doing it or just how it looks? I'd love Wayforward to help animate Sonic content, but if it's the later, deep down I want a hand drawn Sonic game ala Sonic AGES (not the porting company, the fan game).

>>5856 Hmm. I mean I doubt it'd be the worst thing in the world to do, but the series needs a team capable of making a great home console 3D game. >>5857 Who's doing it, mostly

Wouldn't it be funny if Team Sonic Racing somehow outsold both Mania and Forces?

>>5854 >>5851 After looking it up myself, I don't think they'd be doing anything any better than the Kishimoto made Boost games, not just so half assed. Yeah, I make it sound like it would be A Team tier, but really, their work doesn't seems like it would be as polished/expensive like Unleashed/Generations, just a better job at Colors/Forces instead. I mean, that's better than Kishimoto, but it's not doing anything different we've seen for 10 years already, just "better" than it is now but that's not saying much with Unleashed and Generations still being better at doing the same thing.

>>5859 Forces, sure, but Mania? I can see it being as much, if not at least 2 mil, because without the other SEGA characters, it's not going to sale as good guaranteed.

IDW is so boring, I hope we can have storytimes of old Archie comics sometime and hopefully Reborn once it is released.

>>5861 One thing I wish TSR did was not limit itself to just 15 characters. I know rosterfaggotry isn't always a good thing, but it really hurt the hype knowing just how few characters are gonna be in, imo.

>>5863 Especially when practically all of the team members are just the Sonic Heroes' cast.

>>5862 Meh, I'm enjoying it so far. I will admit that Archie had been more compelling in comparison though.

>>5865 Yeah. IDW hasn't had the most glamorous start but I've enjoyed it so far & am looking forward to issue 10. That being said, I wouldn't mind doing an old Archie storytime in here someday.

>>5862 It feels like they tried to bring in a lot of game lore to make a faster beginning but I don't think it worked.

>>5867 That's only to do with how they didn't do anything with those plot points. And how every issue ended off the same way like it's some Sonic Colors - Forces tier bs of story telling. Sounds like SEGA mandates to me, taking what fans asked for and missing the point entirely. It wouldn't had been an issue back in the pre Kishimoto/Pontaff era.

woooo who's ready for the TSR stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLATaPSwJI IT'S TIME

>>5869 >>5870 OH fuck I forgot about the wacky time difference.

OH FUCK and Mania team is in Japan RIGHT NOW?

>>5872 yes and arin hanson too

>>5870 Yo I heard Cool Edge music in the background. Unleashed stages boi.

>>5874 It's really nice. I recognized that too. It also sounds like they mixed a little bit of Endless Possibilities in it too. Unless the similarities to that song was in the original too

>>5874 I was going to mention the same but I think that was revealed some time ago, when they showed images of the ice map.

>Sonic's pose >>5875 Yeah, I heard it mixed with Endless Possibility and sounds like Colors' theme as well. Based.

Those road textures look detailed.

>>5877 I can hear Reach for the Stars in it. Interesting

>>5877 Yeah, there it is. I thought I was getting confused, does it just flow from one tune to another?

>>5878 Yeah, it looks better. I think it looks better than the footage we had before >>5879 Cool Edge: Reach for the Endless Possibility.

>>5873 Oh… right…. why

>>5881 >Cool Edge: Reach for the Endless Possibility.

I was going to say his model changed and they removed (or lowered) his eye brow shape and removed his vagina eye ridge at first when seeing the in game team portraits, but the up close renders show he does have them still. What's weird is his full body render's colors look lighter than the in game model colors, which looks strikingly close to >>5877's colors. Is that just a coincidence?

Not a terribly big fan of the electro Rooftop Run remix.

I think this looks better than Forces >>5886 Huh, I actually do. It's like a faster paced version, something like how the act 2's of Mania music Also, DREAMS OF ABSOLUTION FOR SILVER OMG

Is this game using the HE2?

So Eggman is in. No real surprise there.

>>5888 Doubt it as it's not developed by Sonic Team.

That girl on the right looked like the girl from ICarly wtf.

>>5889 I saw the icon in the score tally but I didn't see him in game, just an Egg Pawn.

>>5889 But what's his team?

It has a remix of Can You Feel the Sunshine. It's nice but surprising since Aaron said there was nothing to do with Classic Sonic in the game

That fan is cool as shit.

>>5894 That alone refers to Classic Sonic characters… I think. But the R symbol is Sonic R, so… It's at least something related.

>Eggman + Egg Pawn + Egg Pawn That's so boring and disappointing

>>5892 Pic >>5893 I'm guessing Metal Sonic and an Eggpawn.

boring

>>5899 Man, did they run out of ideas?

Guess the fans are going to mod in Infinite and Metal Sonic over the Eggpawns. Though I honestly believe the pawns are just placeholders for the real team characters you have to unlock. With that said, what is the notBig referee if Eggman is on the playing field?

>>5900 If Eggman is playable that means that he can't be the tanooki villain in disguise so someone else has to be. I'm calling it now, it's either Metal Sonic transformed or Orbot+Cubot in a suit

Well, it was nice while it lasted. It was fun to watch a stream with /fast/.

>>5903 True, was pretty fun. Looking forward to tomorrow's stream.

>>5904 >tfw it's at 4 AM my time.

>>5905 go to bed, anon

>>5906 I would just post from bed.

>>5907 go to sleep, anon

>>5908 Goodnight /sthg/

Looks like Issue 1 of Legacy is out https://tapas.io/series/Sonic-Legacy

Have all the stages they have revealed for TSR been from Unleashed so far? Are there going to be new locations and original tunes for them?

>>5909 G'night, anon!

>>5911 There's Planet Wisp and some kind of beach level that doesn't look like the jungle level from Unleashed

>>5910 I think Issue 3 of IDW looks better than this. Fix that. Otherwise, I'm not really sold on the "let's retell Sonic 1 but add in yet another non Amy "femme fatale" to go along with Sonic" schtick. Sounds forced. But I am pleased to see both Humans and Sonic characters in one place again, in a hopeful attempt to unify "Sonic's World" into one whole. And I wish I liked Omelette's inclusion, but it seems forced again having her show up so early. Feels Bowser Jr ish too much instead of introducing her up better. But whatever, I don't want to come off like this is shit, it's just not what I want. I already got Sonic 1-Forces stories, I rather just move on with IDW and future games like the TSR comic, hopefully it does new stuff.

>>5910 I like the dialog a lot. It has that Adventure-Unleashed cheesiness but it's not offputting like IDW is at times and it doesn't get cringey like Pontaff era games.

>>5915 dialogue I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJosaT1sCfs

>>5910 it was a good read. The art is a bit inconsistent but it's not bad at all for a fancomic. I like Sonic's characterization as well as Tempest's. I didn't think I was going to like her but she's okay.

>>5899 It really saddens me that in a spin-off like this, they limited the roster so much.

>>5910 I actually like this and find this more enjoyable than IDW The dialog is stronger and revolves outside of "character talks about what they're doing and never shows actual interaction or show of intimacy with other characters". >>5914 >let's retell Sonic 1 but add in yet another non Amy "femme fatale" to go along with Sonic" schtick A-ha, I was thinking that. I don't know what's these people's deal on using Amy. It's a little disappointing how they neglect her and just toss her into the fangirl bin, like they can't and don't take more liberties with other characters. That being said, it's probably a good way to introduce the OC as the face of Sonic Legacy so to speak. >Feels Bowser Jr ish too much instead of introducing her up better Eh, yeah, Bowser Jr-ish is right. I don't really mind it, though. It could get real interesting fast. It's still a refreshing change-up from the boring shit of IDW too! >>5915 You mean with how the IDW dialog is just them talking about whatever the plot wants them to be, instead of talking to each other like they're persons and are unaware of what's to come next?

>>5899 Honestly, that's fucking pathetic. The teams are trash too.

Honestly maybe I wouldn't be bothered nearly as much if Amy got paired with a male character who isn't Sonic, its kind of fucked up Sally and Sonic get their fun but Amy don't either in canon or fan creations.

>>5922 That's just the dynamic. Amy can't have Sonic, but he's the only one she wants.

>>5920 I don't really feel that way about IDW, but I think "Interactions" is just a case by case scerio of what you rather see these characters do with each others. Issues 1/3/5/8 and 9 have small moments of character interstactions, ones that mostly comes from Sonic and Amy with others, which I like. I don't know why I'm like this, but having them talk in some way is enough for me, since right now, you're asking for the comic to not focus on the action just for some alone time for the characters, which is how I feel from this. Right now, these characters are trying to stop Metal's BS, so forcing chatter between characters seems odd to me. This is especially odd since I thought it was a major complain from Archie that Ian was having so much dialog on each page and ignore the action, I thought this was the reaction to that. IIRC, that is.

>>5919 same. They could have gone wild with the last three characters but instead it's just Eggman and two literal whos. I guess Metal Sonic is part of the story like Free Riders and to be honest I didn't want Orbot/Cubot anyway. We could have gotten Infinite, something out of nowhere like Team Rose's Chao, or an old forgotten character for Team Eggman. Or maybe even another team entirely with Eggman being involved in the story as a npc. We know he's going to be the villain anyway since it's 2018 and no one else is allowed to be the bad guy anymore. There's no point in having that raccoon guy if we know he works for Eggman/is Eggman. I really hope that they just played a story mode level or something on the stream and the "Team Eggman" is just some team you play against rather than play as, sort of like the MeteorTech robots in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity. It wouldn't waste roster slots and Eggman still has chance of being playable after the story mode. Everyone would be happy. I REALLY hope it's this but I'm doubtful. This is so disappointing

>>5923 I always thought Amy could easily get a boyfriend if she stopped focusing on Sonic, throughout the series (in several canons) over the years I always felt she could be paired with quite a few characters. I don't think it would be that much of a problem if she were, but I feel like a lot of fans will feel particularly bothered by it even though a lot of fans complain about that trait in the first place.

>>5910 I do have some problems with the art & I don't really care for Eggette, but overall, it was an okay issue. Tempest is pretty cute & Sonic was given a pretty solid portrayal. >>5924 Talking about Sonic comics, yeah, just some interactions between the characters is wonderful for me. Part of the reason why I loved Champions & issues like 8, 9 & 2 so much i because we just get to see some interactions between characters, which I like.

>>5926 Sonamy fans would riot hard. SEGA would probably not like to deal with that.

>>5924 Eh interacting with other characters while in the middle of a fight or a major storyline is something that can definitely be done. I think IDW's writing is just sterilized and simple for now. You can tell something like Sonic Legacy is coming closer to that than IDW.

>>5925 They wouldn't waste a model and car if he wasn't playable. Besides, I think one of the scans showed storymode only having 12 slots to choose from, so a Team Eggman would probably be unlocked after completion.

>>5928 Not to mention, there's not much point in doing it. Each character has their thing with Sonic (Tails being a sidekick to Sonic, Knuckles & Sonic having their friendly banter, etc.) Amy & Sonic's interactions are just their thing. It could be written better (like Amy & Sonic's dynamic in late-Archie for example), but overall, Amy doesn't need to hook up with other characters. Besides, it's not like Sonic's various relationships in Archie was all that well-received.

>>5925 Honestly, question. What game series today have multiple antagonize for the MC to fuck with in today's world? I literally cannot thing of one other than like Pokemon and Kirby. Mario,Zelda,Mega Man, even Crash, Spyro, and Sly used the same main villain. Even Shantae does it. Like, the only series I know that actually has new villains every game is Rayman. At least before the Ubiart era games.

>>5920 >You mean with how the IDW dialog is just them talking about whatever the plot wants them to be, instead of talking to each other like they're persons and are unaware of what's to come next? I was talking more about the corniness of some of the lines. It's hard to explain what I mean but sometimes I feel like I'm reading something by Pontaff or the old Sonic X 4kids dub rather than Flynn. But what you said is another complaint I have with IDW. I read through all the issues so far and the only specific conversations I can actually remember are from Issue 1 where Tails is worried about Sonic's safety and then in Issue 8 where Sonic tells Silver that Whisper's probably shy. I guess these stood out because like you said, the characters rarely interact beyond explaining the plot. Here they are just talking to each other like normal people and talking about things besides jumping on robots. Legacy seems to be doing an okay job at avoiding the problems IDW's dialogue has, which is nice. I hope they can keep it up.

>>5932 They Literally no one at SEGA/Sonic Team now was around when those characters were made. They literally don't give a shit about them. Iizuka didn't make them, so in the bin they go. That's why Taxman could use M&R, he cared about them.

>>5925 Why can't they just fucking add Ray, Mighty, and Sharps already?! They're so disrespectful to their originals. Like god, even Nintendo gave in and added DAISY to Super Mario Run and then Smash after decades of ignoring her, then added Pauline to SMO. >>5933 I don't know about those others but Mario RPGs certainly use non-Bowser antagonists. Just… ugh.. Sonic is in a stale position here. This is why I'm all for re-introducing ALL of the Classic characters from the manga and the ones left behind in the transition to 3D since they are far more neutral at least than the Modern characters.

>>5935 Yeah that's why we see total bores of characters like nu-Shadow and Silver being ham-fisted everywhere, I honestly don't get it. It's awful, why would they throw away most of their team? Is it no wonder new Sonic games don't really feel like Sonic? These guys to me are the epitome of what Sonic's vibe was in the 90s and early 2000s.

>>5932 Aaron said no classic characters in TSR

>>5938 Yeah I know It's shit though I legitimately think the actual classic cast (not just Sonic, Knuckles, Tails like normalfags think) are more interesting and versatile than the modern cast

>>5936 > Mario RPGs That's cheating. I said Pokemon was an example it doen't happen, because , well, RPGs don't do that. And Sonic is and always has to be an Platformer. That's how he was advertised. He needs to get an RPG so storyfags can just have that.

>>5928 >>5931 Eh, i'd say there was shit-flinging for Sonic being paired with other girls but Amy being paired with other boys makes even the non-Sonamy fans ree for some reason. Not sure what's with that. Or maybe their collective ree is just higher. I dunno.

>>5933 They don't have to put in a new villain in every single game but switching it every so often would be nice. Even going back to the 'god monster of the week' that the Adventure era did would be nice at this point. Just something that gives us a final boss fight that isn't just Eggman in a reskinned Nega Wisp

>>5937 > why would they throw away most of their team? Gee, it totally had nothing to do with how 06 and apparently Unleashed was one of the worse reviewed games in the series or something…

>>5943 too bad most of them were more passionate about sonic than the current fucks ever were god im sick

>>5942 They could just use the already established rogue gallery from the classic games, or even the ones from the current games. What happened to the Babylon Rogues again, weren't they bad guys?

>>5942 Well Gens can techincally did do this, just that Eggman Ganondorf'd the final boss spot. The only character I'd care for this is Metal Sonic. Infinite had his chance, but all he had was a shitty toy to do is job, while Metal actually has power.

>>5934 Tbh, when I thought about specific IDW conversations, I moreso remember Amy & Sonic's in 2 where she tried to convince Sonic to go back with the Resistance & Sonic talking about how he lives life his own way & trying to get Amy to come along after she agreed to let Sonic do his thing, Shadow & Sonic going on about Mr. Tinker in 6, etc. I think IDW's had some pretty solid interactions, but I will say that it doesn't stick out as much as say, post-reboot Archie did.. >>5946 They were thieves, but not full-on evil or anything. Besides, they were tied to the Riders series, which died with Free Riders.

>>5946 They only do "evil" things like steal shit, like Rouge does already. They really only care about being on hover boards, they never did anything else. It's so ingrained to them even Wave and Jet in Forces Battle still rides on boards.

>>5949 Damn Why can't they just make them villains but not generic villains or Eggman affiliated villains? Do they even dislike Sonic & co anymore?

>>5950 >Do they even dislike Sonic & co anymore? This is part of the reason I still have some want to keep Infinite around. He didn't become buddybuddy or turn to the side of friendship or whatever. The series needs more villains.

>>5951 Speaking of friendship, what the hell is with that. Why did the series decide to introduce that to its story? You could tell the classic cast were much more distant and far apart from each other. Which characters do you think should be not buddy buddy with Sonic as much? Besides Team Dark I mean

>>5951 I want Infinite to come back and maybe Jackal Squad if they're canon

>>5953 I legit think Jackal Squad is dead.

>>5950 They are basically spin off rivals for Sonic. That's basically it. The only mainline villains for mainline Sonic are >Eggman >Mephiles (Dead) >Erazor Djinn (Dead) >Zavok (God I wished he was Dead) >Metal Sonic >Mecha Sonic (God I wished he wasn't Dead) >Infinite (Mostly Dead) And I think that's it, anyone else is just dead monsters of the week or just forgettable.

>>5952 Ehh, Sonic is only really buddy-buddy with Tails, Blaze when she's around, sometimes Knuckles & Amy when she's not on his hog. He doesn't really interact enough with Silver, or the Chaotix to really get a feel if he's buddy-buddy with them.

>>5952 >Why did the series decide to introduce that to its story? If you meant for Heroes, the Heroes writer did Forces. If you meant why they did this "since heroes", blame Nintendo. It started exactly when Sonic got Nintendoh'd..

>>5956 I remember when everyone was basically cheering for Sonic in Generations

>>5956 Has Sonic ever really had a meaningful interaction with the Chaotix?

>>5954 n-no. They're totally okay. Remember when Infinite just disappeared during Forces' story? He's totally okay. Jackal Squad and Infinite are alive and well and d-definitely coming back and won't be banned from appearing in future media like Mephiles.

>>5959 Nope. I mean, I guess except for Sonic X (non canon)

>>5960 They should at least let him be used in the comics. Restricting characters there is just stupid.

>>5960 Was the Jackle squad even mentioned in game (aka, not the half assed, forced in, basically non canon included Episode Shadow)?

>>5959 To my knowledge, nah. They're actually one of the few cast members Sonic almost never does anything with in the games. Hell, Vector's teamed up with Amy, Blaze & Silver (as well as Espio with Silver), but never Sonic.

>>5964 Speaking of that.. why did they have Amy bullying Vector ?

>>5963 No. They're barely referenced in that DLC.

>>5965 Vector deserves bullying.

>>5963 no but I still want them

>>5967 Vector's a cool croc. Sonic Team is just mad cause he can't fit into a shonen archetype

>>5964 In fact, the only time I think Sonic legitamately talks to(and even seems like he knows well of) Vector is in Sonic Boom the TV show. Which again, is not canon. Mainline Sonic has never actually interacted with Sonic, and only ever had in the beta version of Sonic 1 (which again, thanks to today's SEGA, isn't Modern Sonic's timeline, so even that doesn't count anymore). Honestly, they really should change the ages of Sonic because a 21 year old shouldn't be with teenagers. And neither should 8-12 year old being so close to Sonic either is cool.

The original Sonic cast looked like musicians, now they look like dorks.

*interacted with Vector fix'd…

>>5971 Make em dorky musicians!

>>5970 Well, Boom, X, IDW & I think Archie. But yeah, never in the mainline games. >>5973 Give Sonic a big dorky pair of glasses.

>>5973 >>5974

>>5973 Scott Pilgrim?

>>5975 Perfect. Now I wanna yank them off his face & break them.

>>5977 But then he can't see. Imagine a blind Sonic running into things fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUGOv_dya1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXQRmRLjEnU This is why I love sprites and animation. Now just images this in hand drawn sprites or even into 3D?

Since we got an IDW comics that is basically the spiritual successor of Archie. Can we get a Fleetway reboot with Nigel Kitching as the writer?

>>5981 I would bet SEGA doesn't even remember Fleetway.

>>5981 Well, we DO have STC:O which I think has Nigel's blessing

You know, it's funny how the 2000s era of Sonic is basically Shonen, but the one character that's basically Eastern based, Espio, doesn't do anything interesting during that era. Like, why is that?

>>5984 Well, technically the Chaotix did help with Shadow in his game. But yeah, Espio & the rest of the Chaotix aren't super popular so I guess SEGA doesn't do much with them.

>>5984 Because the Chaotix are minor characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxU61EwwYBA >8:14 Finally someone said it. I want this fixed in 3D Sonic games. Even Adventure era got this.

Is posting up?

Damn, so many posts overnight. We're pretty much at bump limit already.

until amy appears in sonic legacy i don't give a fuck

>>5990 No, you'll get your dumb love-interest Dolphin OC and you'll like her dammit. Amy is old news.

>>5991 apparently sonic legacy is adapting the all the main series games in order. amy is gonna look less clingy by comparison

>>5992 >adapting the all the main series games Don't we have enough adaptions already?

>>5985 Weren't they popular in the 90s? It's almost like they gave them bad redesigns and made them corny as hell to make them lose popularity lol

>>5994 Not really. The Chaotix were only in one game in the 90s & that was a title on the 32X which virtually nobody bought. They're honestly more poplar post-Heroes than they were back in the Knuckles Chaotix days.

>>5995 Ehhhhhh Sonic fans in the 90s used to read the comics a lot which is where Chaotix made their appearances. I distinctively remember Espio and Mighty being popular. That being said, though, Sega finally gave in and put back the Chaotix but made them completely new characters was the dumbest fucking idea ever.

So do people hate Legacy cause of the art, the OCs, or the writing? I wanna make a Sonic fan comic maybe one day but my art… ;_;

>>5996 Yeah, but even back in the 90s the Chaotix appeared more in STC than Archie (IIRC), which not many Sonic fans read, since it was a UK comic.

>>5998 For me it's mostly just the art so far >>5999 I think it's still more people than you think, cause I literally didn't give a shit about nuChaotix period. Heroes was cute, Sonic X was better, but that's it, I literally forget they exist afterwards because they were so shit. And by they I mean Espio and Vector. Fuck Charmy, never should have existed.

>>5998 I mean the art is amateurish yes, but everyone has to start somewhere. This is a fantastic opportunity for young artist to practice their craft, and we should encourage them to do so while also remaining fairly critical.

>>5997 Sonic can have a shirt, but no pants.

>>6003 I want Sonic to have a cool jacket.

>>6001 >nuChaotix Ah, yes, that. How do you think they should have been introduced and portrayed in the games? They looked cool and serious in the 90s but I hate how SEGA made them look like bumbling goofballs. It's like there's a mandate that says only the modern characters can be cool. Actually I'm convinced that's an actual thing.

>>6005 I actually like current Chaotix, as them being detectives gives them something that stands out in the Sonic world & their dynamic can be pretty entertaining. But, I do think that they're better off when it's shown that despite being somewhat bumbling, they're pretty competent detectives who can get the job done. Similar to how they figured out Eggman was the guy who was giving them orders in Heroes, or the last Universe arc.

>>5738 >tfw thought that mighty was so cute I made a sketch of him kissing amy's neck It's actually cute too, I might scan it.

>>6006 It's not about them being detectives, it's how they are executed and how their design is. I think Sonic the Comic's portrayal of them is their best by a long shot. Sega just made em lame with little to no purpose cause they're not named Silver, Blaze, or Shadow.

What's the bump limit on this board?

>>6007 I'mma need to see that anon.

>>6007 post it

>>6009 300 currently. If we keep getting more people, it should probably be raised to 500.

>>6011 >>6010 Lemme scan it and digitize it first I hope it doesn't come out bad

should someone make a thread

>>6009 The bump limit is 300, but since this site is /slow/, threads on this board don't really go down the page as severely as it would on 4chan, so in all, it *could go on forever* but over time it will keep going down the page list. So usually after like 325-350 posts (based on how fast things could get) would be time for a new thread to use.

>>6016 Ah

Im just gonna make a new thread tbh

New bread >>6019 >>6019 >>6019 >>6019

>>6020 Thanks anon