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日本語学習スレッド (Japanese Learning Thread) Anonymous 03/31/2023 (Fri) 03:29:35 No. 2981
Step 0. Resource Acquisition Go here to get Anki, a flash card program: http://ankisrs.net/ Here are some suggested decks: Core2k/6k: https://mega.nz/#!QIQywAAZ!g6wRM6KvDVmLxq7X5xLrvaw7HZGyYULUkT_YDtQdgfU KanjiDamage: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187 Kana: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1632090287 Tae Kim's grammar: https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/242060646 Other Resources RealKana: http://realkana.com/ (alternate version) https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html Click the column of characters you want to study and type the corresponding romaji into the box as they appear Kana Invaders: https://learnjapanesepod.com/kana-invaders/ Space Invaders/Galaga style clone. Type the romaji to shoot the kana alien KanjiVG: http://kanji.sljfaq.org/kanjivg.html Simply plug the character in and instantly get a stroke order diagram Forvo.com: http://ja.forvo.com/ Type in a word or phrase to hear a native speaker's pronunciation Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/ Great introduction to Nipponese, you can start here to learn basic grammar and vocabulary KanjiDamage: http://www.kanjidamage.com/ Learn Kanji by using mnemonics and radicals Mainichi browser extension: http://mainichi.me/ Learn a new vocabulary word every time you open a new tab JapaneseClass: http://japaneseclass.jp/ Learn Nipponese by playing games (requires registration) DJT Guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/ [YOUTUBE VIDEOS] JapanesePod101: https://y.com.sb/channel/UC0ox9NuTHYeRys63yZpBFuA/videos https://veoh.com/users/JapanesePod101 https://www.dailymotion.com/JapanesePod101 Namasensei: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=nqJ5wU4FamA&list=PL9987A659670D60E0 https://veoh.com/find/Namasensei JapaneseVideocast: https://y.com.sb/playlist?list=PLX6kjDZDLD_dNyrkdvTRKVKIJRo4g7xFD Gonna leave these here for those that belieb https://y.com.sb/watch?v=TKg23ZFURX0
[Expand Post]https://y.com.sb/watch?v=vJG9kpqTRmU The Guy with mega of japanese dub movies Use the decoder below to get the link & key. YUhSMGNITTZMeTl0WldkaExtNTZMMlp2YkdSbGNpOVpjekI1VWtGdlF3PT0= X1FrMmpJaVQ0aXpZVGhYS241UGNMUQ== The unironic links guy For beginner/early level: https://y.com.sb/channel/UCXo8kuCtqLjL1EH6m4FJJNA For more intermediate levels: https://y.com.sb/channel/UCh-GhnQ7qDQmS6Bz3pGc1Mw https://y.com.sb/channel/UCVx6RFaEAg46xfAsD2zz16w https://y.com.sb/channel/UCcCeJ3pQYFgvfVuMxVRWhoA
>>4590 I doubt that tbh unless the show is old or set in an old setting. No reason for stuff like modern high school settings to use archaic language for example.
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>>4590 >Can you learn Japanese off watching anime? Yes and no. Anime can be a great resources, but understand that anime tends to have a lot of "dead air" in it and that many of the expressions exist only for dramatic purposes. See primarily the first vid in this post: >>4456 The most benefit you'll really get from standard anime for "learning" purposes is vocabulary. Outside of that, it's probably better to be listening to audio dramas and radio shows for the benefit of auditory comprehension.
Anyone have japanese subs for the first season of hidamari sketch? I'm starting to think it does not exists since i looked everywhere
How do you deal with this problem? I just can't remember like half of the words in my mining deck (currently it has ~1.2k words and sentences). Sure, most of them seem to be too much for my current level. But that's because I encounter them in the real manga that I read. This shit is too demoralizing.
>>9907 Finish a premade deck before mining.
>>9911 I already did like 1/3 of wanikani and a part of some "2k most used words in VNs" deck before switching to mining.
>>9914 Finish the decks.
>>9921 I'm not sure how this is going to help. I had the same problem with wanikani and that was the reason why I dropped it. I just kept forgetting some words and wanikani kept showing them to me every single day and there was no way to just delete them. They kept piling up until I gave up.
>>9935 Review your forgotten cards multiple times a day.
>>9935 And yeah, I'm using FSRS scheduler in Anki and I even added more intervals when learning new words and when relearning forgotten words and it STILL doesn't help. Recently I decided to just start auto nuking them because I just can't do this anymore. I will give up again soon at this point. >>9954 I tried doing this when I was doing wanikani. Didn't work.
>>9968 How many new cards were you doing in a day?
>>9907 Heh... I wish I knew
淫夢はキヴォトスで流行ってるってはっきりわかんですね~
>>9907 Not an anki drone but I assume that graph is showing that there's a lot of cards you're failing to get right? Literally just delete them. It's not worth wasting time on words you can't remember. There will come a time you will. The strength of srs systems is filtering things that are easy for you to remember from things you should give up on for now.
>>9907 How do you get anki to show that?
>>11495 10 at first, then switched to 15 like 1 or 2 months ago. But I'm not doing 15 every single day. I only do 15 if the total number of next day's reviews is less than ~170. I found that more than that makes my brain to completely overload. Also I'm trying not to skip too many days in a row. Shit is autistic, I know. Maybe I should just go back to 10. >>12155 Grim... >>13220 But it took so much time to collect them... That's one upside that I found with mining and which I like - you value every single word and refuse to compromise. (But still decided to enable auto nuking). >>13256 Just click "Stats" then scroll down.
>>14345 Mine doesn't show difficulty. This is sort of the closest I metric I got.
>>14345 You might have to shove it down to 0 for a good month or two to get those review numbers down.
>>16678 Ohh, then it's one of these addons. >>16697 This is too extreme. I think I will just try to go down to 10 for now.
>>17622 Holy shit. How many reviews do you do per day? Also, how many new cards do you take per day?
>>17453 Extreme situations call for extreme measures.
>>17790 150-200. I've got 183 tomorrow for example. New cards are currently at 15, I've had it at 0 for a good 4 months before this though, not because of difficulty but I was just occupied. I chose to live with the difficulty and it sorta worked out during these long months of repetition, the cards that felt impossible have largely assimilated. Not all of them though, it's never that convenient.
>>17932 Interesting. My numbers (reviews per day/new cards per day) are similar to yours. I always assumed that having more difficult cards in your deck means you will get more reviews per day. But if this doesn't affect reviews per day then maybe it is indeed not a problem.
>>9907 First of all, DON'T do what >>9911 said. Premade decks will be even worse in this regard, trying to fill your head with words which you have zero motivation to learn. What you should learn is when to let things go. You don't have to add EVERY word you encountered to your mining desk, only those you want to learn right now. Also, Anki has a feature to bury leaches for a reason, use it.
>>17932 Wack, my average difficulty is way lower than yours but I do even more reviews. Probably too many new cards per day, should dial that back.
>>9907 In my experience: >don't outright delete them, since few things are more moralizing than recognizing a word you only saw once and decided to mine. >accept that mining is a crutch, stop mining for a while while you learn what you mined already, and start excerising moderation when mining. You don't have to mine everything. If you only saw a word once in a hundred tanks, what's the point? >don't use the red button to see the word again tomorrow or in a few days. Manually set it for review in a week or so. Not only you are in no hurry to learn the dictionary by heart, you may not see the words you mined again in hundreds of tanks or w/e you read. >try out a joujou deck, to learn meanings by association rather than memorization. Yes, joujous are not all the kanjis there are but it's a good start. And apply the same methodology for the kanji you almost never see, or the quasi duplicates.
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>>9907 My stats after ~3 years and some months. I've never really been able to recover from a slump a year ago which dragged my kanjidamage retention to hell. My mining deck is only a bit better than kanjidamage, but that's because I mostly mine more obscure shit after having formed a solid base, like 嘯く. It's also kinda funny sad the 2k/6k decks don't even include all joyo kanji... Now, as for your problem: What stuff do you tend to forget? Utter blank on kanji? Can't place the pronunciation, but know the meaning? Depending on what's missing, add phrases to help you remember those parts. Or better yet, make your card fronts sentences with emphasized words. Language doesn't exist in a vacuum.
>>18375 If its a premade deck of the most common words, you'll have to learn them all eventually anyway. Regardless of whether you have "motivation" to learn them or not.
>>17453 Ah I see I don't have FSRS on. I just use the old anki algorithm apparently.
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Any ideas on how to translate "武羅衆" into English? I know 武 has to do with a military force, or can mean warrior. Then 衆 is for a mass group of people. But what about 羅? I know a little Mandarin and I've seen 羅 used in the context of gathering or collecting something. So would "武羅衆" mean something like "hunters?" But I feel like that's wrong..
>>22769 I thought it was weird that you read it like ほろしゅう, so I looked it up and this is what I found http://www1.clovernet.ne.jp/kurohoro/his/oda/horos/index.htm >母衣(ほろ。幌、保侶、武羅とも書く)とは、日本中世の軍装品である。
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>>25258 That's a little different, that has to do with Oda Nobunaga's black and red cloak groups which he established when he was older. 武羅衆 is something else.
>>25410 It's the same word but with different Kanji, probably because they're not literally wearing red cloaks. It's just a metaphor. If you wanted to translate it then you would use a similar metaphor, one that has to do with clothing if possible.
>>25451 I'm probably going to go with "elite warriors"
The year I took JLPT N3 they asked for the reading of 秒, I skipped to that level and can't imagine what the questions are like in N5. N1 I passed easily two years ago thanks to two years of studying a Heisig Anki deck with pen and paper during uni (not at the uni), genuinely the most important thing is to learn the radicals that determine the reading, after that learning vocabulary from anime makes much more sense.


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