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/pol/ 3.0 मित्र 07/29/2024 (Mon) 13:47:36 Id: 132442 No. 7454
previous thread >>4031 Use this as a dumping ground for all political discourse. Try to avoid using personal attacks and have civil discussion, without derailing the thread.
>>9015 Yeah I just realized I made typos. I was asking about the term "western" What comes under this umbrella term?
>>9020 Good question. You do have an acamdemic bent. The term west is a substitute term used towards normies, which refers to the Global American Empire. Geographically - North America, Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea , Pakistan , Turkey (NATO allies) etc. Financially - Countries part of the SWIFT banking system, currencies dependent on the US$ directly such as Yen, Pound, Euro etc Trade - Countries part of the single market western systems Education and Academia - Same countries with institutions funded directly or indirectly by USaid. Publishing and funding research that forward their narratives and weaponize science in their favour. Media empire - Media institutions of the countries which run the same narratives. From a historical POV, from the British empire which was nearly bankrupt at the end of WW2, America takes over as the Global hegemonic power. It is not an empire of naval nature, similar to Britain, even though it inherited Britains naval structure and fleet, which continues to be a strong force. It is a media and technological empire, controlling the globe through soft means.
The social contract is changing in Europe. Europeans are in panic. It is changing in India too. Indians also don't know how to deal with it. Modi was spot on when he said , यह नये काल चक्र का प्रारंम्भ है
>>7454 The real estate market will die, but land ownerships value will not. We are in very weird times now.
>>9032 Land ownership is the most basic fundament of higher civilization. All modes of government function around ownership of land save hunter gatherer societies. Land will always hold value, just as gold will, being that gold exchange is the first trade occurrence above bartering.
>>9041 arguably even hunter gatherer societies have land ownership, just not expressed as clearly as pastoralist, agricultural etc.
https://archive.is/08XkO >Economic theory suggests that lower tariffs enhance market competition, driving inefficient domestic firms to innovate or exit, thereby reallocating resources to more productive businesses (Melitz, 2003). Additionally, reduced trade barriers encourage the inflow of superior technology and practices from abroad, generating productivity spillovers and raising overall economic efficiency (Grossman & Helpman, 1991). Therefore, a more strategic approach for India would involve unilaterally reducing and simplifying its tariff structure. Instead of maintaining broad, high tariffs across numerous sectors, India should consider lowering overall rates, perhaps adopting a more uniform tariff or a two-tiered system with lower tariffs on inputs to boost competitiveness. Removing non-tariff barriers like the Quality Control Orders (QCOs) that complicate trade is also crucial. Trump will end American trade supremacy and fracture the West, net win for India and the developing world. Fear India will not take advantage of it, however.
I believe I am being targeted by islamists with help from western intelligence agencies. This is it. If I don't return, goodbye bros.
>>9052 Go dark anon. Goodluck.
>>9049 Good post and I agree. This will stir competition in India. >>9052 Don't forget to change your appearence. Clear your harddive and phone or encrypt it.
>>9052 SEA and a fake passport (one you could purchase from some villagee you happen to look like) Good luck yaar
>>9054 India has had so many opportunities to do and never has. I've accepted India's glacial pace.
>>9052 Wtf Why so if you live in India, how did you piss them off that badly >>9054 If western intelligence is involved as he says and, if they really want to, they will get the encrypted contents. If you really do not want them to get your contents, physically destroy your hard drives, and in the future, use SD cards. Keep a pair of pliers handy. Takes 10 seconds to irrecoverably destroy anything in the card.
>>9059 There is a lot happening that is barely covered. I am hopeful. I have never been hopeful, but Modi's game goes far and deep. I bow my head.
>>9064 They have access to "encrypted" chats I go far beyond this already.
While my impression of Chinese military has worsened to the point of not taking them very seriously - they are taking over media narrative wars and fast gaining US levels of narrative controls - scary pre prints in Scientific research coming for reviews in Intl journals..China will rule.computation at this rate.
Manufacturing in India is doing well and giving me lot of hopium. But media hitjobs from usual sources are attacking Indian reputation like never else. Brown sepoys working overtime now. Well the war has intensified.
>>9101 India is making good progress but the pace is painful and the BJP tard army makes sure issues get overlooked. The swachh bharat campaign is the best example, corruption and incompetency ruined a great idea. India needs a Javier Milei style clean up.
>>9106 We talked about it before, sadly but also for the good, things are on the same long slow path. - Both government and BJP are corrupt at every level. - Executing anything becomes a pain and will eventually return to same old middlemen and babu's ruining it. - Cleaning up too fast will mean some escape and others suffer more. - It will also upset a working system (not a good system but it works). Without a system , we will descend into south america style chaos very fast. India needs more of this slow boil, for 50 years non stop.
My wife asked me to explain Waqf to her. When I was done, she just looked at me blank, like why would any country allow that in the first place.
>>9186 When you lay something out on the table like that without any of the cruft, it becomes easy to see and understand and to say "why would they let this happen?" Unlike when you undergo the slow progression, obfuscation, misdirection, propaganda over years. >>9123 BJP has done some good things but tbh the country is still poor and giving people smartphones and data does not constitute development by itself, even if it spawns two dozen delivery startups that make use of unemployed youth. Just once I would like a government to go all-out and fix our policing and justice systems without the usual chindhigiri. The rest can follow.
>>9187 > Just once I would like a government to go all-out and fix our policing and justice systems without the usual chindhigiri. The rest can follow. It is a huge ask. Judiciary is a tool of foreign interference, used to keep us vulnerable. If we fiddle with it, like Nethanyahu did, we will have civil war. Not organic of course. Police reforms, the moment BJP does it, it will lose lot of its own members who are criminals, which they need to stay in power. Judicial reform is very much possible before 2030 as American influence is weakened. But Police reform will take longer. I agree with your sentiment. Without - Uniform law and order - Uniform interpretation of law - basic infrastructure in every corner of country India is not a real country. If I am to be honest, I hate India and the Idea of India. It is a temporary state, to be eventually replaced by Bharat. We are in that process now.
>>9187 >Unlike when you undergo the slow progression, obfuscation, misdirection, propaganda over years. Yes. But the counter is important too. When you put it that simply, the injustice is obvious the fact that we allow it, it should shame us.
>>9187 There is another aspect. We have manufacturing that has already begun. We are making small chips, basic electronics etc. Sure you have commie protests etc and we need to take care of them. In 10-15 years, we will see consequences of these. There will never be satisfaction. My generation never got to see roads, bridges etc. So the construction of those alone is a big deal for me. Gen Z wants first world cleanliness and standards. Gen Alpha will want something else (if someone knows what , please tell). This dissatisfaction is good for progress.
>>9191 >>9189 >Judiciary is a tool of foreign interference, used to keep us vulnerable. If we fiddle with it, like Nethanyahu did, we will have civil war. Not organic of course. Do elaborate, I could not make sense of one word. >- Uniform law and order >- Uniform interpretation of law >- basic infrastructure in every corner of country >India is not a real country. Basic infra was a thing that could and should have been achieved long long ago. We have enough money to have done it even with the influence of corrupt politicians, but no one with enough power tried. Its frustrating, and what's even more frustrating is that we/our governments keep taking shortcuts because fixing the system is too much effort. Because the justice system is broken, let's just kill suspects in custody. Any time there occurs a rape let's "recreate the crime scene.". Aadhar was the one ID to end all IDs, but now every department wants its own ID for some reason, the newest one is ABHA for students for some reason. This does nothing for the students, but maybe it makes thing easier for some Department/Ministry/Authority. All this paperwork, and it does nothing to bring down crime rates/fraud or increase literacy rates. It tells you that it's not the paperwork or the tech that is the problem, it's the system, but all we do is pump more hi-tech into it. >>9191 >We have manufacturing that has already begun. We are making small chips, basic electronics etc. That's a start. Homegrown electronics industry will be a good step. Relying on chinese manufactured products harms us long term. Rest assured, though, that the devices will not be cheaper. The entire difference in price between chink and indo products will be gobbled up by Govt and none of it will be passed on to customers or the company, and the devices will contain useless shit as a result of government directives, surely including backdoors. >My generation never got to see roads, bridges etc. So the construction of those alone is a big deal for me. This is why I said that the BJP has done some good things. It's easy to talk shit, but when I remember "highway" rides from 10+ years ago I realize that only the biggest cities were connected with tolerable roads. Good luck, if you were trying to go elsewhere. In that, we've come a long way. People from just decade ago if they had the opportunity to drive on those, they would not complain at all.
>>9194 >Do elaborate, I could not make sense of one word. My bad. I tend to post without using my brain or proof reading skills at all. Soros and gang made this public, but it has been well known from before. If you want to hack a countries government, bribing individuals higher in the government chain takes lot of money and does not yield equivalent results. you must remember that these deep state/rothschild types, are the ultimate dhando's. They are trillionaires by getting a return on investment on every step. So they instead go after people lower in the food chain, earlier in their careers. Young scientists, high court judges, mid and low level babu's etc. You can buy them easily. A trip to Switzerland, a night with a prostitute and a video recording , scholarship for son in xyz collage or school, or a job in Twiter/Microshit etc. In return, these guys will strike down laws, let terrorsts go, stop progress on projects like Nuclear, copper etc in the name of environmentalism. I hope I wrote it better this time. This whole week has been incredibly heavy. > All this paperwork, and it does nothing to bring down crime rates/fraud or increase literacy rates. It tells you that it's not the paperwork or the tech that is the problem, it's the system, but all we do is pump more hi-tech into it. I don't entirely disagree, but you missed the elephant in the room. Indians are corrupt. Any average Indian chooses corruption. We essentially use high tech to eliminate each other from the process. Philosophically, it is excellent. By eliminating humans from the process, the chance of corruption is minimized. But culturally, we must also work on eliminating the need for this deception and rat race too. > Good luck, if you were trying to go elsewhere For any non Muslim, BJP is the only option. Other options mean death. I don't say this lightly either. Both me and my family have faced this and this is a very clear fact for me. I don't care for online Wordcells, who have nothing to lose arguing either case. > People from just decade ago if they had the opportunity to drive on those, they would not complain at all. Yes. This is me. I am old faishioned that way. I appreciate how much effort it took , for Indians to make large copper cables, not import them, then lay them to transmit power lines. Each of those employed families, whose lives were made from this. Laying cables , making foundations for pillers, doing the welding. Engineers doing the calculations, scientists calculating the loads and designs. I know it means nothing to current gen. They take these for granted and complaint (rightly so) demanding other things. But even so, it means a lot to me. I have a feeling, we will be returning to these times soon. Where a roof over ones head will be more affordable than smartphones and TV's.
>>9198 >I hope I wrote it better this time yes it makes sense now. You can buy the lower level judges, who will delay things indefinitely. >I don't entirely disagree, but you missed the elephant in the room. That is what "system" means. Government machinery works such that an honest person cannot remain honest for long because of pressure from the rest of the people. For every corrupt official you see, there are 10 that he needs to pay that you don't see. It's like a pyramid scheme, but one that actually works. I heard of a factory inspector. (If you don't know, these are government employees). He quit his job. For the reason that he was forced to be corrupt. You know how these things work, they find fault in your paperwork unless you give them something under the table. This person used to approve things if they looked right without any under-the-table dealing, which angered his superiors. The catch with the hi-tech approach is that it's all show. Do you think people who have been living easy like that all their lives are just going to let some machine eat up their livelihood? They are not. Especially considering they are usually in charge of developing, implementing, maintaining and controlling these state of the art corruption-eradication mechanisms. And the human always has the final say. Which is a good thing. My gripe is that efforts to fix this machinery of the government which is torment for the citizens even excluding the money paid, are not and will never be taken, and we will always be given some hand-wavey "online" system which has it's "server down" 80% of the time. I wrote a few more examples, but then erased them all because it's all the same. >Where a roof over ones head will be more affordable than smartphones and TV's. No, never, unless you mean under some government scheme. Every settlement larger than "small town" has a builder/real-estate mafia which will always drive up the prices of real estate and make sure it stays that way. It will never go away for the exact same reasons as to why government corruption will never go away. One is that it is highly profitable, for the members of the mafia and the government officials, and the second is that, the people who are profiting from this are politicians, or very close to them. From what I understand, the game of real estate dealers is to buy land from farmers and the like, dirt cheap. Then they pay big money to government babus to get all sorts of permits, and then make a plotting layout and sell these to people for many many times the rate they bought it for. This is a major reason why our cities are shitholes, every last inch is plotted out and sold. There might be a section in some Act which prevents this from happening, but it might not be binding enough, or leaves it to the discretion of the official - so here we are.
>>9203 Most people don't realize how compromised our country is at every level. It is impossible to get anything done properly. I had a meeting with another babu, who passed an exam studying some regional language, trying to explain how a project will be beneficial to India. After spending my own money and few weeks, I realized I was just wasting my time, holidays and money. > That is what "system" means. I know what you mean. Incentives cause outcomes and India has incentivized cheating each other as much as possible. For a nation that calls itself Dharmic, we tolerate adharma day in and day out. If for no other reason, then for this reason alone, people should begin. I have many stories, many of my own and many many other ones too. It is a long change, generation after generation. Each generation will demand more and more. The Indian approach of slow and steady, well when viewed at long term, makes sense when you view the larger time frame. > Real estate Real estate allows a businessman to put in X investment , but get X x 10 returns. It is basically free money generation. Amit Shah and others have made ton of money this way. Though Amit Shah is smart enough to do it in Malaysia. Other BJP (and every political party) get money from real estate. But DMK NCP Yadavs Mayawati These guys are experts are corruption. Moral judgement aside, I love reading about how it functions. The nitty gritty of it. The company filings, moving black money and white , the mechanisms.
>>9204 The opposition to Waqf reform made me realize how truly fucked India is. Best realistic case is India fucks off and lets everyone else rip each other apart. Attempting to be a world power is ridiculous at this point.
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>>9207 On the contrary, Rothschild , Blackrock and others are moving investments into India. On one hand, some wealth will help Indians. On the other hand, wealth will amplify the worst in India. India won't be a global power like USA. But it is on its way to be a strong regional power and a bigger global power. > opposition in India. Nothing but puppets of the west, trying to fight one of the few last battles. Without western money they will be nothing.
>>9210 Their money is poison. Also hilarious wikipedia drama. Seething Paks living in the UK editing Indo-Pak war articles. Should've ended that country in '71.
>>9052 my suspicions are confirmed, although they have not sent anyone in for the hit yet it seems they have bigger fish to fry for now it is probable that they have put my details on a hitlist, possibly to do another cleansing like 14 dec 1971 if any anon wants any information or any questions answered, feel free to ask indian media reporting is 80% correct and 20% propaganda
>>9216 Indian media is all propaganda and none of it Indian propaganda. I talked to someone who talked with the Bangladeshi team, he said the Bangladeshi representatives are so incompetent that Indians don't even get a chance to pressure them, before they fuck things for themselves. Dark times for BD. Your family should really consider meeting relatives for a while or moving around. I am sure there is a hit list. You mentioned your father was a lefty, well that makes him a prime target. Finding peoples political leanings, their Watsapp history etc is a piece of cake. Remember what I said about Opsec. Good luck to you and your family. >>9214 I am very apprehensive too. But families with 250+ Trillion worth of wealth have the kind of power that none of us can comprehend. Fighting it is easy, disregard money. It is not convenient, but convenience is something used to enslave us anyway. Check out the book
Global american empire's media control and propoganda machinery never ceases to amaze me. We will never come close. That's fine though. It is fun to see American burn slow


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