>>412063 uncle?

KCD2 might be pozzed.

>>412553 >Sandngger preaching the value of xenophobia to keep the country safe <but also claims they treat women with respect

>>412554 Most still have dissonance when asked why they feel safer in western countries, especially their women, but the funny thing is that mudslims never had something like the protestant reformation because of their low literacy and autocratic governments. In a few decades they'll probably water down their religion to just be a moral system with rituals and socializing.

>>412555 Nothing in their behavioral history would lead you to believe that.

>>412556 You could say the same thing about christians between 400 and 1200. They did have a period where they had fun with math and philosophy until it was used as a weapon of religion/government and essentially died out. The ones in the middle east are kept bitter and retarded to militantly desire going to magic soil countries, but I remember hearing the apostacy rate among muslims is around 25% in the US and rising.

>>412557 >They did have a period where they had fun with math and philosophy until it was used as a weapon of religion/government and essentially died out. <between 400 and 1200 You mean (((coincidentally))) during the period that the Roman Empire was falling apart and Europe was being invaded by the Ottomans?

>>412557 >whataboutism That's nice. I'm sure I care about the strawmen. SAY! What about that "Islamic Golden Age" where they TOTALLY had "scientific advances" and were "enlightened" people? Why didn't that stick with the dune coons if it's true? Because it's not true. Because your communist bullshit of "every religion is the same and every people is the same and we're all interchangeable cogs that can be plucked out of our environments and set down in another one and we'll magically conform to the society exactly the same way that a native does" is a hoax and always has been. You have NOTHING in history to suggest that Islam–a religion that says as a matter of doctrine "kill everyone on Earth who isn't Muslim"–will magically "mellow out" at "some point in the future" because "another religion did the same thing because I say it did." You have to do way the fuck better than that to trick us, mussulman.

>>412559 Well, I have this as supporting evidence. Respondants in north america leave islam because it's too rigid and side with leftists, so I don't see how reformation to keep their culture is off the table. https://archive.ph/0892X I don't have a full dossier of evidence yet but it seems apparent that some want to reconcile a belief in god and their culture with some western values, much like that discussion a few weeks ago here on how most christians in america aren't following the (pre-watering down) tenets of catholicism any more. That said most mudslims still need to stay in the middle east and only O-1B visa applicants should escape.

>>412560 Yes, individuals might leave a religion (which says to kill anyone who leaves, by the way), but that's not evidence that the religion itself is going to change in any way.

>>412561 Fair enough.

>>412560 >but it seems apparent that some want to reconcile a belief in god and their culture with some western values You have leaders in the Middle East doing just that. Where they're declaring that they're "returning" to beliefs that are based "solely" on the Quran. However the problem is that there is nothing actually in the Quran about how to practice the Muslim faith. For those practices, they have to refer to several external works. It'd be like Christians wanting to "reconcile" their faith by throwing out all of the Bible except for the Four Gospels. That's not how the religion works.

>>412563 The four gosples bit is interesting because there are people advocating to only follow what jesus said and ignore everything else as trial of nicaea revisionism.

>>412564 The problem is Christ's divitnity doesn't work when you cut out the Old Testament, which is three quarters of the entire Bible. As it relies upon everything from his lineage relating to David, to the prophecies of the Isreali messiah, to him teaching from the knowledge of the Torah and quoting passages from Psalms. So right off the bat, it's awfully apparent that you cannot just pick and choose which books you think are "important". In addition to that, you have since had the various Orthodox Churches around Africa and the Eastern world that came to the same conclusion that the there was probably something funny about the development of the Bible at the demands of Constantine, yet they all seem to agree that the other 23 "core" books that make up the standard New Testament are canon. Meanwhile on the opposite end, there's also people who want to go so far with removing "heresy" that they demand the removal of John due to how "no one know who John even is" and his it was written at a much later date, or even demand that nothing is canon except for Mark as Luke and Matthew "copied" it.

>>412565 What's worse is that Jesus directly contradicts the basic teaching of the Old Testament given by Moses, "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." The entire Old Testament is based on that principle. That's why the Jews were always getting revenge on their oppressors and each other for wrongs and slights. So you have the supposed culmination of the Bible in Jesus condemning 3/4ths of the whole Bible but you are still supposed to believe in the whole Bible and without the Old Testament Jesus is just another guy out in the street preaching whatever he wants and making it up as he goes, and that doesn't even take into consideration Jesus pretending to be the heir of the Old Testament prophets and kings. So Jesus wants to be Israel's champion and yet directly undercuts the most basic teaching of the Old Testament and rejects it. This is why I think Jesus was a goy. Jesus was not a Jew, he was a Greek gentile who took inspiration from the Old Testament Jews but, because he was not Jewish, he misunderstood the essentially Jewishness and fundamental teaching of the Old Testament. Jesus really was a clueless white Greek goy out there among the lower classes bumbling around trying to make sense of the world and was in above his head. He did not understand his own self assigned Jewish source material.

>>412540 Reality truly is the greatest comedy.

>>412538 This is ai generated.

>>412553 Given the way Vavra has acted over the years I'd like to believe this is a piss-take but it's always hard to have hope.

>>412568 No. >>412566 >condemning Not what happened.

>>412566 The world was also a very different place then it was back then, I would argue that Jesus despite being the son of god, was still just a man and that God himself despite being almighty is also a bit of a despot. Jesus is meant to be the best of man, but he's still only human. Then again I'm a kike myself so I can only go off what I've been told about the New Testament.

>>412571 Actually reading the new testament, no Jesus is not just a man. He is an aspect of God & thus is omniscient. He just still can feel as a man. That's why he despairs & cries to God over knowing he must be sacrificed for mankind's sins. He also does not contradict the laws of Moses but outright says to follow them & he is also there to not do away with them but fulfill them. So that the old practices are no longer needed for salvation as well as allowing gentiles to seek him/God.

>>412566 This is a load of fedoracore bullshit. As much as I love vengeance Moses actually advised that punishments be befitting of crimes through deliberation by judges for acts determined to be malicious (this forms the predecessor to modern due process). Jesus simple reaffirmed that as he saw that the Jews of his time were abusing that responsibility for petty vendettas, not justice, and spoke out against retaliation all of the time. He even ended up being the victim of the culture and corruption he directly referenced and criticized when he had the temple tantrum and whupped the merchants' asses, which also proves he wasn't spineless or against righteous indignation and taking action with it. Dumbass twat.

>>412572 >He also does not contradict the laws of Moses but outright says to follow them & he is also there to not do away with them but fulfill them. To put it in a way that a jew might understand: Say you have a contract with someone that you'll pay them monthly in exchange for something. This contract has terms–the amount paid, the nature and scope of the return value, etc. It has clauses for what happens if you break it… all that jazz. Now the person you're paying comes to you and says, "Cool, we're done. The contract has been fulfilled. Want a new contract? You don't need to pay anymore." That's what Christ did.

>>412574 Aptly put.

>>412559 <>whataboutism Lefty buzzword to dismiss arguments

>>412572 >>412574 I see, so basically after Jesus was put on the cross it was treated as a sacrifice like we do with the Chicken on that one holiday. So as a result when Jesus came back, the terms of the agreement between us and god were changed. Correct?

>>412576 >the word used to describe what leftists do to dismiss arguments is totally a leftist word! This isn't even gaslighting. It's a sputtering match. >>412577 Well, Christ held the covenant fulfilled before his crucifixion. But yes, the implication of his sacrifice is to end the perpetual (and ephemeral) sacrifice of animals in exchange for the (permanent) sacrifice of the selfish ego to the eternal, immutable truth.

>>412577 That's why Jesus is called the Lamb of God. He is the last & ultimate sacrifice by God himself to grant forgiveness for humanity's sins.

>>412561 >Yes, individuals might leave a religion (which says to kill anyone who leaves, by the way), but that's not evidence that the religion itself is going to change in any way. Well he did say it was 25% of those in the USA and rising. >>412578 >This isn't even gaslighting. It's a sputtering match. It's true. For a long while it was used pretty much exclusively by Twitter leftists to dismiss anyone pointing out their hypocrisy via analogies, and you're adopting their culture and language, sweatie :^).

>>412580 >sweatie Get fucking trucked Val

>>412566 Jesus was a hebrew, but he wasn't a jew. Jews were the peopel of judea, one of the twelve tribes of hebrews, the most bitter, jealous, and back-stabby of them all, and just like rodents, they survived the best even after they got old world nuked by hadrien. Jesus is what happens when a hebrew person isn't raised to be a kike.

>>412555 >In a few decades they'll probably water down their religion to just be a moral system with rituals and socializing. i seriously hope that this man's work does heavy numbers on the whole of that anti-trinitarian sect https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=WVYzBjyVXW8

So, is anyone gonna make a new thread, I could make an initial D one since no one else has anything else going on.

>>412584 make it, fire edition >>412537 >>412529 >>412547

>>412584 >>412585 So, Night of Fire edition?

>>412586 Can you put the Night of Fire Song somewhere in the OP, like replacing the last image, then if you're part of the staff? I had already made this since we past 700 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224 >>1059224