>>32290 How many cartoon women have been based on Lauren Faust? Frankie from Foster's Home and Wendy from Gravity Falls are the two that most readily come to mind.

>>32245 >>32288

>>32243 vee is on twitter pretty frequently posting about pinnoccio getting dicked down by lampwick and that other disney channel show about a princess and her older grimsby-looking attendant.

>>32451 I've heard of having wood but this is ridiculous!

>>29040 >always ends badly (yes, even to the wealthiest e-thots) since they are not used to independence [Citation needed]

>>32245 This reminds me of the greentext where the anon, in his early teens, watched a lot of incest porn and then complained to his mom that they weren't having sex like everyone else. She called the father who comes home, walks into his room, and says "You tried to fuck your mother?"

>>32466 Kids these days. Parents need to take responsibility & teach them how to be involved in family fucking. A family that sleeps together stays together.

>>29704 John Kikefailushit was never good, he's always been a hack. It's just that with the grooming scandals he's not a sacred cow anymore.

>>32502 >John Kikefailushit was never good, he's always been a hack. Whether he was a hack or not, Ren and Stimpy was very popular in its day, and me and the boys used to laugh like hyenas at the early shit. He was good.

>>32502 You're a fag and your shit's all retarded. John K. is the best animator in decades. Ren & Stimpy is one of the best tv cartoons ever, and doubly so if you're judging them based on animation, and thus discounting shows with good writing but not very good animation, like The Simpsons or whatever. While I do still like the later seasons of Ren & Stimpy, there is a noticeable decline once John K. was fired. And if you get autistic, you can see the decline get worse and worse as episodes have less and less of his involvement. The episodes he was involved with entirely were the best. The ones that only got to storyboards or animatics by the time he was fired aren't as good. The ones that were written but not drawn aren't as good as those. The ones that had nothing to do with him are again worse than those (but I do still like them). Ripping Friends is good too. Very underrated.

>>32243 >had it rough >made up a bunch of shit and says that getting hit on is assault She's a cunt and clearly has an excellent life that she goes out of her way to say is bad (and sometimes make slightly worse) so she can get SJW points. Make no mistake, she has it better than everyone on this site.

>>32503 >>32506 Being lively animation doesn't make it good to look at. That's what gets me. His art style & animation is just disgusting to me.

>>32506 >>32503 >ren and stimpy was good ren and stimpy was different, that much can be said. The animation was all form, the ability to contort cartoons into agonized, disfigured faces, beyond what cartoons of the time were doing with silly flattening gags and impossible space fuckery, now instead of being able to hit a character and a silly lump shows up on their head and they scream or birds tweet around them, their skull caves in and they unleash a blood curdling scream of agony. Is it good though? Nah, it's pretty niche, it's not universally good, and your statements basically confirm that JK was the reason it was as good at it's best, but that doesn't really mean shit because any time someone is writing about shit they don't care about, you get some awful writing and direction, and I doubt anyone really cared that much about making a gross out humor show about a gay couple and their household antics.

>>32512 It was a massive hit at the time. So evidently many people cared about it. It was very influential and a major force for getting creators to actually have a hand in driving the directions of their shows, rather than producers, throughout the next several years. Unfortunately that trend slowly started waning the moment John K was fired and the Ren & Stimpy continued to be successful, and cartoons slowly started going to shit again. Took a long while to become completely shit again, but they got there. I don't credit John K entirely with why cartoons were so great in the '90s, but he is a significant part of it.

>>32527 The 90s/early 2000s was the time where all Nickelodeon cartoons were experimental & weird. Most didn't work. Because most of them were really ugly.

>>32531 What are you talking about? As Told by Ginger was a masterpiece!

>>32539 MOUTHS DO NOT GO THERE!

>>32539 Klasky-Csupo's style on a slice of life show about a teenage girl was a terrible idea. Their style on a show about how life is weird through the perspective of babies (which are also weird) worked much better. I'd also say it worked pretty well on things like Ahh!! Real Monsters or Santo Bugito. But yeah, it had no place on things like As Told By Ginger or Rocket Power. Wild Thornberries is kind of on the edge. It works for the animals, but not so much for the people. Nickelodeon Studios/Games Animation toned it down a bit but was still a bit weird, hitting a balance that let them do more stuff without it just seeming fucked up. Rocko's Modern Life looked good, but the style didn't contrast with them doing more down to earth stuff sometimes. Catdog was kind of in a similar boat. Rocko clearly wouldn't exist if it wasn't for things like Ren & Stimpy making Nickelodeon want to do more adult, more creator-driven stuff. And Spongebob wouldn't exist without Rocko. Of course Rugrats and Doug deserve a lot of credit too. Rugrats helped to get Klasky-Csupo all that other work, even if sometimes they weren't actually a good fit for the subject matter. Doug helped to popularize a whole bunch of other slice of life shows, perhaps most obviously Hey Arnold (which existed in concept before, but may not have been picked up by Nickelodeon if Doug wasn't so successful). With all the different studios doing stuff on Nickelodeon at the time, though, I'll at least say that I appreciate that they had dimension to them. Even as a kid it bugged me how flat everything on Cartoon Network looked at the time. Later I learned it was because John K. moved over to Cartoon Network to help develop their earliest original shows after he got fired from Nickelodeon. Indeed, Ren & Stimpy did have a flatter style than the other Nickelodeon shows, but not to the extreme degree the Cartoon Network shows had. But John K was a good fit there because of course the earliest Cartoon Network Shows were literally Hanna-Barbera shows, made by people trying to bring back HB's glory days. And to a large extent, they did. And then HB just got renamed Cartoon Network Studios. But HB was good for doing a relatively good job with low budgets. They still looked like shit compared to actual good animation. HB was good because actual good animation was for theatrical cartoons at the time. But by the '90s, Disney, Nickelodeon, and WB were actually putting good animation on TV again. Look up the influence of Disney's Gummi Bears, which has drastically better animation than any tv cartoon for decades before it, because Disney realized that by investing more money they could make more money in syndication. >tl;dr: You're wrong. Most of those shows did work. They were very successful. Even the few that were actually ugly and shouldn't have been successful.

>>32543 Rugrats is ugly but in a tolerable way. What's really ugly is the show's main cast are jews.

>>32503 John K has talent and is very knowledgeable about classic toons and fallen flags within the industry. However, his arrogance is his major flaw. >>32543 >Klasky-Csupo's style on a slice of life show about a teenage girl was a terrible idea It all started with Little Lulu and Pepper Ann.

>>32546 Only Didi and by extension Tommy (and I guess Dil, if we're gonna count him) are jews. And Tommy is only half Jew and still celebrates Christmas. Oh yeah, and Didi's parents that the ADL said were anti-semetic caricatures. None of the other characters are jewish. Stu, Lou, Drew, Angelica, Charlotte, Chuckie, Chaz, Phil, Lil, and their bulldyke mom and faggot dad are all explicitly not jewish. Oh yeah, and Suzie's family obviously aren't jewish. But they do celebrate Kwanzaa, so close enough. >>32547 >It all started with Little Lulu and Pepper Ann. Little Lulu is a fucking ancient comic strip character. I assume you're thinking of the animated version from the '90s, but even then, that looks like a generic old comic strip artstyle. Not at all like Klasky-Csupo. I can see why you'd make the comparison to Pepper Ann, but clearly that show was influenced by Klasky-Csupo and Nickelodeon/Games cartoons that came out before it. Also The Weekenders all have the same fucked up heads as in Rocket Power, and both try to do the "cool kids" thing terribly.

>>32553 Still too jewish.

>>32553 No, I wasn't referring to the artsyles. I was referring to the aim and premise. Which was unfair of me to throw Lulu out there like that. Also, there are two series. > but clearly that show was influenced by Klasky-Csupo and Nickelodeon/Games cartoons that came out before it. The thing about that was, Disney was at war with the other networks at the time and needed more shows aimed at tweenage girls. If anything, Pepper Ann was more of a kid-friendly take on Daria than anything else. >>32554 Explain.

>>32543 I thought the style worked well with Rocket Power honestly >>32547 >Pepper Ann Almost thought you meant the artstyle and not the teen fad. Pepper Ann had shittons of slapstick and comedy though, As Told by Ginger was just pure drama, angst and boredom.

>>32553 Chaz and Chuckie aren't jewish? Huh. I guess they were both such nebbishes that I just assumed. Though it would make sense that he would marry a Japanischer in that case.

>>32564 >As Told by Ginger was just pure drama, angst and boredom. That's due to Dawson's Creek and Degrassi: The Next Generation. >>32567 Throughout the earlier seasons, Chaz did have various flings. One of them being a female police officer.

>>33168 Nice.

>>32835 Billy was chosen for his purity of heart. So... no sex with damaged women until he marries them. Shazam help him if his wisdom of Solomon fails him and he actually does it. By the way, can anyone pinpoint when secret identities suddenly stopped being secret? At LEAST half of Batman's rogue's gallery knows that he's Wayne (Joker, Bane, Riddler, Ra's, Catwoman...probably others). Spider-Man seems to give it away once a month. It's just stupid as shit. Forget the enemies looking for revenge, they'd be mobbed by paparazzi every time they tried to go out for coffee.

>>33294 Only the power of a pure hearted shota can overcome evil in the hearts of horny villainesses.

>>33296 Can a pure heart also shrink her dragging beef curtains?

>>33327 Maybe!